Gemini Interview ?

[HA25]

drug test after interview is normal.

I didn't do it, but then I've heard that many who did interview in the past have.

 

[flypixs]

Flypix, did Gemini talk about any future plans?

Thanks for any information.

cb,
not really. They said expansion is in the works, but they are not sure when and how many. They would like to grow, but it depends on the man with the money.
Are you with Gemini?

 

[HA25]

Our CEO just put out an email stating that we're in the works on a deal that could get us into some more MD-11's.. not much was given in terms of details, but for him to actually state it, rather than hear it thru the rumor mill is a good sign.

 

[cbeyw]

Yes, Flypix.

pm if you need info.

 

[2LT]

-11's

Our CEO just put out an email stating that we're in the works on a deal that could get us into some more MD-11's.. not much was given in terms of details, but for him to actually state it, rather than hear it thru the rumor mill is a good sign.

Unfortunately, so are UPS and --perhaps to a lesser extent-- FedEx. I remember back in '05 when I interviewed/went through Indoc "they" were saying the same thing. Maybe they've finally gotten a handle on it...who knows. In any case, it'd take some time to get a conversion slot if they were to get any additional airframes.

 

[Trogdor]

Can anyone tell me what the realistic hiring mins are at Gemini?

 

[AV8N4Fun]

Anyone know a pilot working there that has a first name of Rick? He would have been there the past 2 - 3 yrs. Nice guy. Used to live in Central Florida. Thanks, AV8N4Fun

 

[Fedora]

Can anyone tell me what the realistic hiring mins are at Gemini?

3000TT, 1000 PIC turbine is what's listed in our policy manual, although one individual on this site claims to have been hired with zero PIC time.
They are trying to hire folks who aren't "hireable" at other airlines, so that they can retain them here. It is a great chance to gain a lot of experience (albeit SIC time) which can help you later on in your career. Go ahead and apply. It's not a bad place to work, great bunch of flight crewmembers, just not a lot of money.

 

[q100]

Hiring runs the gamut. In one recent class there were 3 regional airline check airmen (definitely hirable anywhere). What Gemini do want, though, is people who will stay a while. Whether it is because due to age or qualifications they are unlikely to hire on elsewhere, or because they have a strong interest in doing the kind of flying Gemini does. For those of us who came from the regionals, it was all about quality of life, as the home basing means NO COMMUTING, and not having to spend almost half your "days off" getting to and from work is worth a lot.

Also, and this is a calculated risk career move, should the stated intent of the new owners to grow the airline come to fruition, and crew attrition continue (F/Os especially) at current pace, an upgrade within 5 years or fewer is likely. Big IFs, there, though. Same goes for a contractual improvement in pay in a couple of years. Base your decision on QOL.

Do you want to fly for a company that treats its people pretty well, have reasonable time off in long chunks, see the world, and fly big, modern, well looked after but not necessarily shiny jets? Can your loved ones stand to have you away from home for over two weeks and for the occasional month at a time (perhaps that's what they want!)? Is Gemini enough of an improvement over your previous job that you're not going to wait until that call which may never come from a legacy, Southwest, UPS, etc.?

If you can answer an honest yes to all these questions, you'd probably be happy at Gemini. But if you do come aboard, stick around a while, yeah?

 

[dojetdriver]

3000TT, 1000 PIC turbine is what's listed in our policy manual, although one individual on this site claims to have been hired with zero PIC time.
They are trying to hire folks who aren't "hireable" at other airlines, so that they can retain them here. It is a great chance to gain a lot of experience (albeit SIC time) which can help you later on in your career. Go ahead and apply. It's not a bad place to work, great bunch of flight crewmembers, just not a lot of money.

I personally know 3 that were hired with ZERO turbine PIC time. 2 of them into the MD-11. One didn't even have an ATP. I would love to work for a company like GAC. I'm young (relatively), single, want to see the world, and have no problems being out 17+ days straight. I tried when they were hiring in the summer/fall of '05, then again at the end of last year. Sent resumes, had two friends that work there write me letters. Heard nothing.

Thing is, I have no PIC time, lots of glass/FMS SIC, just no PIC. I would think they would ACTUALLY like that, because I would not be able to go anywhere anytime soon.

 

[HA25]

I personally know 3 that were hired with ZERO turbine PIC time. 2 of them into the MD-11. One didn't even have an ATP. I would love to work for a company like GAC. I'm young (relatively), single, want to see the world, and have no problems being out 17+ days straight. I tried when they were hiring in the summer/fall of '05, then again at the end of last year. Sent resumes, had two friends that work there write me letters. Heard nothing.

Thing is, I have no PIC time, lots of glass/FMS SIC, just no PIC. I would think they would ACTUALLY like that, because I would not be able to go anywhere anytime soon.

Check your PM

 

[B747FR8DAWG]

5 Towns Chatter

Just ran into a Gemini guy at the 5 Towns, and he was asking me about employment opportunities at Atlas. He's been there for a relatively short time, but had nothing really positive to say about the company, the positive was that he flew with a great bunch of guys, but said that there was a lot of attrition over there. Not trying to Flame you guys (we got our problems at Atlas) but just want the low down at GAC?

 

[flypixs]

Interviewed there about a week ago. Just wondering if anyone there knows about how long it takes to hear something one way or the other. They said it would be for a first week of July class. Haven't got the thanks for playing letter yet so I guess I still have a chance.

Hey,
Just wondering if you ever heard back from GAC? PM me if you get a chance.
Thanks

 

[md11driver]

tj, Fedora is one of our senior CAs who actually CARES about where his company is heading. Like myself, you haven't been here that long, and you don't know the history of the company. Put your self in the shoes of someone who's been there 10 years, and in his late 50's (UPS isn't so practical), that has watched his fleet size halved in his tenure, and watched his management miss opportunity after opportunity to grow it.. He's far more vested in this place than you or I, so try to see it from his view, and not the view of an excited new hire. I was there too, so I'm not judging you, just giving you insight into why some people will have their criticisms. You'll soon be on the line, and you can make up your mind for yourself.

good points from both of these guys, if you're a new hire it's exciting but I dont believe the company offers the financial rewards necessary to remain happy in the long run. You do end up with a type on your cert but so what? with no PIC time it's useless. Did it for a year and left for NJA, different lifestyle but definitely a place to retire from flying.
Good Luck with your decicions

 

[2LT]

Huh?

good points from both of these guys, if you're a new hire it's exciting but I dont believe the company offers the financial rewards necessary to remain happy in the long run. You do end up with a type on your cert but so what? with no PIC time it's useless. Did it for a year and left for NJA, different lifestyle but definitely a place to retire from flying.
Good Luck with your decicions

Don't tell UPS that...

About the money, you're spot on...very little pay, no retirement, etc.

 

[metrodriver]

posted by q100:
Do you want to fly for a company that treats its people pretty well, have reasonable time off in long chunks, see the world, and fly big, modern, well looked after but not necessarily shiny jets? Can your loved ones stand to have you away from home for over two weeks and for the occasional month at a time (perhaps that's what they want!)?

The first point is debatable, especially when you ask the folks that have been here more than 2 or 3 years.
The chunks of days of are reasonable. Most folks though are looking forward to 2 weeks on / 2 off. Any reduction from the current 17 days would be a start. Good thing about Gemini is that they don't keep you out after your tour is over, although lately there have been quite a few instances of that happening. Not a good thing.

Seeing the world: yes, from FL290 or higher in the nighttime. Rest is often during the day (like the miami flying) back in MIA, you spend your time locked up in a compound (Lagos, Chennai, Bengladesh) or 12 hrs rest at an intermediate stop (Nairobi at the end of an 16-18hr duty day). We do have days off in Europe of which a big part you sleep away, either resting after a flight or resting before a flight. Playing tourist for a day in Brussel or Milan is not bad, compensation for Lagos or Bengladesh I guess.
The DC10's are not modern anymore. 30 years old and counting. The 3 GPS units are nice, better equipment then those of the competition in MIA. Maintenance is in the eye of the beholder. Quite a lot of AOG's of late could have been prevented if maintenance figures would have listened to crews, and acted on that. A proper supply of spare parts (APU's anyone?) would solve a lot of problems too. Sending a plane for weeks into Africa without an APU is asking for trouble.

A family that can miss you for a long time is nice. Don't see it that much. Reason for the high devorce rate?

 

[AMDFlyer]

posted by q100:
Do you want to fly for a company that treats its people pretty well, have reasonable time off in long chunks, see the world, and fly big, modern, well looked after but not necessarily shiny jets? Can your loved ones stand to have you away from home for over two weeks and for the occasional month at a time (perhaps that's what they want!)?

The first point is debatable, especially when you ask the folks that have been here more than 2 or 3 years.
The chunks of days of are reasonable. Most folks though are looking forward to 2 weeks on / 2 off. Any reduction from the current 17 days would be a start. Good thing about Gemini is that they don't keep you out after your tour is over, although lately there have been quite a few instances of that happening. Not a good thing.

Seeing the world: yes, from FL290 or higher in the nighttime. Rest is often during the day (like the miami flying) back in MIA, you spend your time locked up in a compound (Lagos, Chennai, Bengladesh) or 12 hrs rest at an intermediate stop (Nairobi at the end of an 16-18hr duty day). We do have days off in Europe of which a big part you sleep away, either resting after a flight or resting before a flight. Playing tourist for a day in Brussel or Milan is not bad, compensation for Lagos or Bengladesh I guess.
The DC10's are not modern anymore. 30 years old and counting. The 3 GPS units are nice, better equipment then those of the competition in MIA. Maintenance is in the eye of the beholder. Quite a lot of AOG's of late could have been prevented if maintenance figures would have listened to crews, and acted on that. A proper supply of spare parts (APU's anyone?) would solve a lot of problems too. Sending a plane for weeks into Africa without an APU is asking for trouble.

A family that can miss you for a long time is nice. Don't see it that much. Reason for the high devorce rate?

It appears from APC that GCO just renewed a long term contract with Alitalia, does that mean that the flying in Italy will intensify? Will the Milano Malpensa destination will see an increase in GCO flights? Can anybody in Gemini elaborate on the subject?

Thanks

 

[metrodriver]

we did not have a contract with Alitalia, so tell me how it can be renewed. We do fly for another Italian cargo company and if that contract will be renewed then that would be wonderful

 

[AMDFlyer]

we did not have a contract with Alitalia, so tell me how it can be renewed. We do fly for another Italian cargo company and if that contract will be renewed then that would be wonderful

...just reading what was written in another website, my apologies for the mistake. How much longer left on the Cargo Italia contract and how many chances to renew it?

 

[Atccfi]

Does Gemini have any J/S agreements with other airlines? Do you get to keep the hotel points/ airline miles for your travel? Thanks.