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Amish RakeFight

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http://wcbstv.com/local/teterboro.airport.plane.2.1439965.html
Small Plane Skids Off Runway At Teterboro

Gulfstream 200 Skidded Off Runway With 3 Passengers On Board; No Injuries Reported


TETERBORO, N.J. (CBS) ―A small plane landing at Teterboro Airport with three people on board skidded off the runway and became stuck in mud, CBS 2 HD has learned.

The plane, a Gulfstream 200 owned by BB & T Finance Corp. out of Charlotte, N.C., made its descent over Teterboro around 9:45 Thursday morning.

The three passengers managed to escape the plane without injury.

The airport is open while crews work on towing the plane from the mud.

Please stay tuned to CBS 2 and WCBSTV.com for more on this developing story.
 
Will be interesting to learn what happened. Looks like a nice day weather-wise in TEB.
 
My vote is on the tower only having the runway with a 20kt tailwind open. Seen this before with all the runway closures up there.
 
My vote is on the tower only having the runway with a 20kt tailwind open. Seen this before with all the runway closures up there.

If someone lands a jet with a true 20kt tailwind - well, lets just say that would be a tough one to talk your way out of. I looked at the historical METAR's shortly after this happened. Winds seemed to be light and variable.
 
My vote is on the tower only having the runway with a 20kt tailwind open. Seen this before with all the runway closures up there.

I am just a young fledgeling and told I don't know much
by my X-MotoroXX Captain, but is it not true that most or all jets have a 10 knot tail wind limitation for landing?

Your fired!
 
<<but is it not true that most or all jets have a 10 knot tail wind limitation for landing?>>

Yes, very common.
 
I am just a young fledgeling and told I don't know much
by my X-MotoroXX Captain, but is it not true that most or all jets have a 10 knot tail wind limitation for landing?

Yes, that is true...most, but not all....

Not uncommon for some of the larger birds...those used in the 121 world, to have a 15kt TWC limit.

But at the end of day, it's all academic. Regardless of what the certification limit is for landing with a tail wind component, you still must have ENOUGH PAVEMENT TO STOP!!!!

HELOOO....McFly....HELLOOOO!!!
 
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Didn't someone say that the METAR indicated that the winds were light and variable?
 
I am just a young fledgeling and told I don't know much
by my X-MotoroXX Captain, but is it not true that most or all jets have a 10 knot tail wind limitation for landing?

Your fired!

I used 20kts as a high number, I have seen some high number tail winds at TEB, when a perfectly good (open) headhead runway was available, but no one was landing on it.
What is an X-MotoroXX Captain? and I'm sorry you got fired.
 
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I used 20kts as a high number, I have seen some high number tail winds at TEB, when a perfectly good (open) headhead runway was available, but no one was landing on it....

There in lies the problem. DON't LAND ON IT.

I'm cruising into TEB a year or so ago...frontal passage the night before, next morning CAVU with wicked west/northwest wind and plenty of LLWS.

Guess the runway in TEB?

You guessed it....24. Had a slight shift to a more NW and requested rwy 6. Was told that folks were using 24 and why we wanted 6. HEADWIND you IDIOT.....

After a very quick comment that EWR's configuration wasn't my problem, we asked where he'd like us to hold while he sorted it out...

Couple 360's and we're on downwind for 6. No biggie.

I have been flying into these shhhitty airports nearly my entire professional career, and I can honestly say that when I'm headed to TEB, MDW, PWK, and several others, I'm landing with a headwind, or they can refuse me and i'll take it up later.

Simple stuff keeps the metal from getting bent.....
 
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Didn't realize a G-II was a "small plane".
they're not if you're talking to a gulfstream pilot. gulfstreams are the biggest and most complicated planes in the world if you talk to them. you don't even have to ask them - they'll tell you anyway. if you're talking to an airline pilot they're tinker toys.
 
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so what happen with the G-200 in TEB? The pic looked like they went off the side, not the end
 
Later that day, around 3pm, a CJ2 or CJ3 taxied off of the taxiway into the grass/mud. Left main sunk to the gear door, and the nose gear was just off of the taxiway. Must have been something in the water up there that day!
 
Agree with the brother about getting another runway. No good reason to land w a 10 kt tailwind unless it's the only possible option. Landing w 20kts of tailwing would be in the heart of the stupidity envelope.

Meanwhile, the G200 can be a very squirrly machine on the runway, much more so than the avg business jet.
 
New York approach may not be able to set you up with a better runway, but once you're on with tower they should be able to take care of you. A few weeks ago we were cleared to land on 19 with a 15-20 kt tailwind. We told them we were unable to land with those winds and they promptly offered us 24 without any delay.
 

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