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While im not in favor of what the Go-Jet guys did its simply abuse of power to deny a jumpseat. Its like competing in the special olympics having a jumpseat war. The only reason for denial should be weight and balance issue or MEL'd jumpseat
 
punkpilot48 said:
If the captian deny's boarding the passenger has no right to be on the airplane. Its called PIC authority.

Hes denied the right to use the jumpseat. If he wants to deny someone with a valid boarding pass then its a whole new set of red tape. Especially when you have a valid pass you no longer have to intro yourself to the captaion
 
D'Angelo said:
While im not in favor of what the Go-Jet guys did its simply abuse of power to deny a jumpseat. Its like competing in the special olympics having a jumpseat war. The only reason for denial should be weight and balance issue or MEL'd jumpseat

Wow. Even D'Angelo is distancing himself from the whipsaw alter ego.
 
punkpilot48 said:
If the captian deny's boarding the passenger has no right to be on the airplane. Its called PIC authority.

Yeah, try that with your company and let me know how it goes. :laugh:
 
Has any one actually had a GJ pilot ask for jumpseat?
 
At ORD today, 11:30AM Capt doing preflight on 163GO with cell phone in hand, talking the entire walk around.
Oh so professional!
Its no wonder why their pilots wont even LOOK UP while walking thru the terminal at ORD?
 
Nindiri said:
Yeah, try that with your company and let me know how it goes. :laugh:

Exactly that crap doesnt fly. You have the right to kick someone with A VALID BOARDING PASS off but you better have a darn good reason why. Telling the company because I didnt like that he was GJ wont fly. It will put the entire non rev and ID-90 system at risk. Thats why its so brilliant. Just carry the ID-90s and tell the rouge captains where to stick their jumpseat ego.
 
doh said:
Has any one actually had a GJ pilot ask for jumpseat?

I personally have not however I know of some captains that have. They have let them on and most dont even know who GJ is. Luckily most people dont play games, even the angry union doesnt condone a jumpseat war.
 
Lav Service said:
Pilotbrain, you're a tool. It seems that a most of the people you flew with at CAT thought you were too. BTW FDX has your name and isn't interested.

hey lav,
Seriously when you get back to SLC call me and we can catch up. Im off tell the 4th of june. We can grab some lunch.

 
SpyFlysDOTs said:
At ORD today, 11:30AM Capt doing preflight on 163GO with cell phone in hand, talking the entire walk around.

I work for TSA and would be the last to defend BlowJets, but at least get the N Number right so you look credible it is not GO its GJ. If you saw a GO it was not BlowJets.
 
rjacobs said:
I work for TSA and would be the last to defend BlowJets, but at least get the N Number right so you look credible it is not GO its GJ. If you saw a GO it was not BlowJets.

163GJ?

Its my day off and didnt have a lot of sleep, but it was GO and I did see what I saw, as did an FO waiting for bus at same time..thanks.
 
In this day and age, an airline striking is a very remote possibility. So as I've said in the past, it may be time to redefine the term of SCAB. IMO you don't have to fly struck work. But it sure seems to me that when you knowingly take a job under these circumstances G---Jets, Freedom, whatever you know what you're doing. Especially if you left said parent company for the express purpose of by passing seniority.
 
stage said:
Wow....you guys are worse than deseased rhinoceros pizzle :laugh:

Why?

These folks who have asked for the jumpseat are on the aproved list, had valid ID along with license and current medical, and in the case of the one person who rode in the actual jumpseat, are aproved for cockpit access.

Why would I deny them?

I commute to work and I'm sure there are Captains out there who feel I have taken their jobs away by flying an RJ, but I've never been denied because "politics" are not suppose to be used with the jumpseat.
 
Reebo said:
Why?

These folks who have asked for the jumpseat are on the aproved list, had valid ID along with license and current medical, and in the case of the one person who rode in the actual jumpseat, are aproved for cockpit access.

Why would I deny them?

I commute to work and I'm sure there are Captains out there who feel I have taken their jobs away by flying an RJ, but I've never been denied because "politics" are not suppose to be used with the jumpseat.

Apples and oranges. The mainline boys gave the flying away. Most RJ drivers would give up their left testicle to have all jets at mainline. The RJ drivers had no say in the deal. The HOjets trash are stepping on your head to boost themselves up. These are guys that are bypassing seniority, while there bretheren are being furloughed. The incredible short sigtedness of it makes me ill. Fortunatly, most of the guys on here claiming no animosity towards the GJ trash, are in fact themselves GJ trash tryiing to put a better spin on their transgressions. It is sort of sad really, and definetly pathetic. There is no way to cast these swine in a good light. Perhaps it is time politics became a part of the jumpseat.
 
Reebo said:
Why?

These folks who have asked for the jumpseat are on the aproved list, had valid ID along with license and current medical, and in the case of the one person who rode in the actual jumpseat, are aproved for cockpit access.

Why would I deny them?

I commute to work and I'm sure there are Captains out there who feel I have taken their jobs away by flying an RJ, but I've never been denied because "politics" are not suppose to be used with the jumpseat.

I was being sarcastic. :)

If they are a pilot have the credentials, then they can get on my airplane. You never know who they really are or when you will see them again. They could be on the hiring board at another airline in the future, or on my promotions board in the military. You never know.

My act of denying him/her the jumpseat would do nothing to help TSA pilots, so why do it?
 
stage said:
They could be on the hiring board at another airline in the future, or on my promotions board in the military. You never know.
You would think that's why most people wouldn't have gone to g0jet in the first place.
 
SpyFlysDOTs said:
163GJ?

Its my day off and didnt have a lot of sleep, but it was GO and I did see what I saw, as did an FO waiting for bus at same time..thanks.

Doesn't the FAA skip the letter O in tail numbers so it won't be confused with a 0?? I thought I remember that from something....
 
rtmcfi said:
Apples and oranges. The mainline boys gave the flying away. Most RJ drivers would give up their left testicle to have all jets at mainline. The RJ drivers had no say in the deal. The HOjets trash are stepping on your head to boost themselves up. These are guys that are bypassing seniority, while there bretheren are being furloughed. The incredible short sigtedness of it makes me ill. Fortunatly, most of the guys on here claiming no animosity towards the GJ trash, are in fact themselves GJ trash tryiing to put a better spin on their transgressions. It is sort of sad really, and definetly pathetic. There is no way to cast these swine in a good light. Perhaps it is time politics became a part of the jumpseat.

This is exactly why ID 90s and pass benefits exist. So as long as there is 1 open seat the jumpseater can tell you to get bent and your peanuts suck
 
Isnt this what management wants us to do? Fight each other?

Divide and conquer. Works every time. :rolleyes:
 
stage said:
Isnt this what management wants us to do? Fight each other?

Divide and conquer. Works every time. :rolleyes:

Blame the angry, vocal minority fired up by the union. They are the ones that always start this $hit. I always carry extra ID-90s just hoping for a day on another airline where someone actually tries that jumpseat war crap. Never happened to us at comair but its a good money in the bank policy.
 
stage said:
Isnt this what management wants us to do? Fight each other?

Divide and conquer. Works every time. :rolleyes:

You are catching on; maybe you are not as dumb as you sound. Don't go to g0jet and you won't be part of "divide and conquer".
 
redbook said:
You are catching on; maybe you are not as dumb as you sound. Don't go to g0jet and you won't be part of "divide and conquer".

Or maybe you should pull your head out of the sand (or maybe your lower body orafice) and stop dancing when they pull your puppet strings, sir.
 
stage said:
Or maybe you should pull your head out of the sand (or maybe your lower body orafice) and stop dancing when they pull your puppet strings, sir.

Please illuminate me, alter ego whipsaw pilot, and who is pulling my strings?


I can guess your response already; the whipsaw is actually a good thing for tsa; we just are too blind to see it. Our head is in the sand. Got it. Time to move on, right?

Thank you sir!
 
redbook said:
Please illuminate me, alter ego whipsaw pilot, and who is pulling my strings?


I can guess your response already; the whipsaw is actually a good thing for tsa; we just are too blind to see it. Our head is in the sand. Got it. Time to move on, right?

Thank you sir!

Management wants pilots to fight each other, so you and some of your closest like-minded friends tap dance on cue.

Dance puppets......DANCE!!!
 
stage said:
Or maybe you should pull your head out of the sand (or maybe your lower body orafice) and stop dancing when they pull your puppet strings, sir.

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