G0Jet Jumpseaters?

[D'Angelo]

Shut up, you are an idiot. Here's your sign.

Ever hear of a weight restriction? You should have been around in the days when Lorenzo tried to get on ATR's to ACK. Amazing how there seems to be a lot of weight restrictions. Captain says he gets off, he gets off. End of story.
Now go polish your sign.

Dont worry if you ever deny me ill simply go get my ID-90 and not say a word until the flight is completed. Thats the beautiful thing is most of the time especially if you change clothes real quick no one will even notice then ill tell you what a prick you are after the flight is complete. Nothing you can do when you didnt even know I got back on.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Dont worry if you ever deny me ill simply go get my ID-90 and not say a word until the flight is completed.

And what would you say? "Ha, I went and spent my money and bought a ticket"?

You're not too bright, Duh Angelo.

 

[D'Angelo]

And what would you say? "Ha, I went and spent my money and bought a ticket"?

You're not too bright, Duh Angelo.

Its quite a cheap ticket really. Also its a good way of telling the captain hes not the boss of you. Oh sure if there are many flights you can wait for the next one but if there are not many an ID-90 is a great way to bypass prick captains who have some sort of anger management issue

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Dont worry next time ill make sure they have some ID-90s in their bag. That way he can go get his boarding pass come back and say ill be in the back if you need me prick thanks for the free peanuts. Actually the best time to say this would be after the flight. Then watch the captain get all angry and realize theres nothing he can do about it. Hysterical. Oh sure try and call security, for someone with a valid boarding pass? I Dont think so.

Valid boarding pass? Maybe, but still traveling as a non-rev. You obviously don't know what you are talking about.

Next time you have to use an ID90, make sure you mouth off to one of the crew and see if your Chief Pilot has a talk with you and possibly losing your travel benefits for awhile.

 

[D'Angelo]

Valid boarding pass? Maybe, but still traveling as a non-rev. You obviously don't know what you are talking about.

Next time you have to use an ID90, make sure you mouth off to one of the crew and see if your Chief Pilot has a talk with you and possibly losing your travel benefits for awhile.

Havent had to use one yet but it will be hilarious if I ever have to. Just seeing the look on the captains face and watching him blow a corinary will be worth the cost of the ID-90.

 

[FoxyWhiskey]

ID-90's

Ok, I am going to relate D'Angelo's ID-90 to the usual scene at the gate:

1. Most jumpseaters are given a BP by the gate thanks to Ops. We in the cockpit usually don't find out who the jump flies for until they get out to the plane and ask permission to ride.

2. If the Captain says no, then you aren't riding! You get your a$$ back to the gate!

3. Now tell me, at this point, what makes you think whipping out your stupid ID-90 is going to make a difference? The gate agents don't HAVE to do ANYTHING! You are the lowest of the low, being offline. Chances are, accomodating you at that point would hold up the flight. Chanced are, you aren't going on that aircraft anyway! The gate agents are going to have a field day with you, they aren't scared by some self-righteous, guy with an entitlement attitude! We treat our own non-revs bad as it is, sadly, would love to see how they handle you.

I have never seen anyone denied the jump because of politics, maybe it's just because of where I'm based. However, as an F/O I sure as hell know it's the captains decision and what he/she says goes. I don't know any captain who'd even let you on with an ID-90 after the fact. Have fun whining at the gate while the aircraft taxiis away. I do however, support those who are willing to stand up for what they believe in, denying the jumpseat in this case.

D'Angelo...Maybe show us all your picture so we can see you coming in advance.

-FW

 

[D'Angelo]

Ok, I am going to relate D'Angelo's ID-90 to the usual scene at the gate:

1. Most jumpseaters are given a BP by the gate thanks to Ops. We in the cockpit usually don't find out who the jump flies for until they get out to the plane and ask permission to ride.

2. If the Captain says no, then you aren't riding! You get your a$$ back to the gate!

3. Now tell me, at this point, what makes you think whipping out your stupid ID-90 is going to make a difference? The gate agents don't HAVE to do ANYTHING! You are the lowest of the low, being offline. Chances are, accomodating you at that point would hold up the flight. Chanced are, you aren't going on that aircraft anyway! The gate agents are going to have a field day with you, they aren't scared by some self-righteous, guy with an entitlement attitude! We treat our own non-revs bad as it is, sadly, would love to see how they handle you.

I have never seen anyone denied the jump because of politics, maybe it's just because of where I'm based. However, as an F/O I sure as hell know it's the captains decision and what he/she says goes. I don't know any captain who'd even let you on with an ID-90 after the fact. Have fun whining at the gate while the aircraft taxiis away. I do however, support those who are willing to stand up for what they believe in, denying the jumpseat in this case.

D'Angelo...Maybe show us all your picture so we can see you coming in advance.

-FW

The point is you dont need the captains permisson to board with an ID-90 pass. He can kiss my A$$ at that point. He can find me if he really has that small of a porker that he needs to feel special somehow. It sure has worked before. I know of one person that was denied a jumpseat, there was still time left and the gate agent was happy to accomodate. Personally ive never been denied and I dont jumpseat all that often. I always carry an ID-90 just in case and im confident it will work. The gate agent has no idea why you didnt get on. That way you get your boarding pass and the captain cant do anything but scream at that point. Its actually quite funny to override an arrogant captain. The most important part is to make sure you board early. Most gate agents will let you preboard and if your not succesful theres still plenty of time to use the ID-90 at which point you can laugh your A$$ off at the prick captain after the flight is over

 

[champ2kt]

Don't post a whole lot but here go's.. GO JETS (I love how that gets edited) don't embarase me by asking as I will just say no. stick to the whole ID 90 thing so you can be your own man. Then sign up with Alpa and you will be forgiven like all the other POS scabs that were let back in to Alpa and if you are denied a jumpseat based on your being a POS Scab you can go to the Alpa Pro standards and they (Alpa) will tell me (Dues paying Alpa member) not to call you a POS Scab and not to denie you the jump seat based on your being a POS Scab. So there you have it you to can be forgiven for being a POS Scab just change your union and enjoy the jumpseat that you have earned.

 

[FoxyWhiskey]

The point is you dont need the captains permisson to board with an ID-90 pass. He can kiss my A$$ at that point. He can find me if he really has that small of a porker that he needs to feel special somehow. It sure has worked before. I know of one person that was denied a jumpseat, there was still time left and the gate agent was happy to accomodate. Personally ive never been denied and I dont jumpseat all that often. I always carry an ID-90 just in case and im confident it will work. The gate agent has no idea why you didnt get on. That way you get your boarding pass and the captain cant do anything but scream at that point. Its actually quite funny to override an arrogant captain. The most important part is to make sure you board early. Most gate agents will let you preboard and if your not succesful theres still plenty of time to use the ID-90 at which point you can laugh your A$$ off at the prick captain after the flight is over

Actually, it's more fun keeping arrogant f'tards off the aircraft. And yes, the gate will know you can't ride. All it takes is a call to Ops. I'd walk with ya back down to the gate just to make sure a person with your attitude doesn't ride, whoever you fly for.

-FW

 

[citabriapilot]

Reading all this mess makes me glad I chose freight...

 

[FoxyWhiskey]

Clueless!

Actually, it's common courtesy to board LAST if you are jumpseating, especially if you are offline, D5, and not a priority. I think it would be very annoying (yet funny) to have you run up to the A/C with your highly prized jumpseat BP, only to be told to kick it in the jetway/bottom of the stairs until the passengers and their bags are on. It's just rude, but it sounds like you don't care what "other" crews think of you anyway. Nice.

-FW

 

[D'Angelo]

Actually, it's more fun keeping arrogant f'tards off the aircraft. And yes, the gate will know you can't ride. All it takes is a call to Ops. I'd walk with ya back down to the gate just to make sure a person with your attitude doesn't ride, whoever you fly for.

-FW

The beautiful part is though is that most people wont even think of this. therefore when denied I recomend just saying ok then getting the ID-90, quick change of clothes and the fools wont know what hit em. Then watch their blood pressure hit the roof when the pricks find out you got on the plane anyway. I know most pilots dont call ops. Also denying someone with a boarding pass brings your name on the radar and puts your airlines privledges at jeopardy. I know that this has worked in the past and will work again. Sorry to spoil your small pecker fun!!

 

[FoxyWhiskey]

The beautiful part is though is that most people wont even think of this. therefore when denied I recomend just saying ok then getting the ID-90, quick change of clothes and the fools wont know what hit em. Then watch their blood pressure hit the roof when the pricks find out you got on the plane anyway. I know most pilots dont call ops. Also denying someone with a boarding pass brings your name on the radar and puts your airlines privledges at jeopardy. I know that this has worked in the past and will work again. Sorry to spoil your small pecker fun!!

OMG...MY airline privileges in jeopardy????
God bless the airline employee who turns you in to your Chief Pilot for abusing the non-rev privileges, hell, for being abusive and unprofessional in general. Your games will get you known really quick, no doubt someone will be moppin' the ramp with you soon, little man. :beer: You're having enough "small pecker fun" for the two of us.

-FW

 

[D'Angelo]

And you think pulling this is funny?
God bless the airline employee who turns you in to your Chief Pilot for abusing the non-rev priveleges, hell, for being abusive and unprofessional in general. Your games will get you known really quick, no doubt someone will be moppin' the ramp with you soon, little man. :beer: You're having enough "small pecker fun" for the two of us.

-FW

How is it abuse of non rev privledges? A valid ID-90 agreement is in place, the fare has been paid for. There is not one illegal thing about this. Just because the captain denies the jumpseat doesnt mean there arent alternative methods of getting on the aircraft. Its not abuse if it isnt illegal. If They didnt want us to have ID-90s then we wouldnt have them. Like I say I havent had to use one yet but I will be delighted to do so if I ever come across a rouge captain.

 

[FoxyWhiskey]

ID-90's are meant to be used as a non-rev PASS on another airline. You aren't guaranteed crap. Given the situation you are portraying it would be abuse in fact. You can't sell it differently. Verbal abuse toward the captain after the flight would be proof enough, the fact that you would even consider talking to another crew that way is disgusting. Sounds like you are that problem child that no one wants on their plane.
BTW, if you want to be considered a "real" pax, then fork over the $$$ for an ID-20 and go confirmed. Too bad you have to do that back up at the TKT counter.

-FW

 

[arthompson]

As a former gate agent I hate to tell you but the Captain can deny you a seat on the airplane wether or not you have an ID-90. At both of my previous Airlines the Captain had the final say on NRSA's, if he/she didn't want you on board you weren't getting on, period. If you're a dick to the CA as a Non Rev you will not ride, then the gate agent can't do anything but list you for the next one.

 

[D'Angelo]

ID-90's are meant to be used as a non-rev PASS on another airline. You aren't guaranteed crap. Given the situation you are portraying it would be abuse in fact. You can't sell it differently. Verbal abuse toward the captain after the flight would be proof enough, the fact that you would even consider talking to another crew that way is disgusting. Sounds like you are that problem child that no one wants on their plane.
BTW, if you want to be considered a "real" pax, then fork over the $$$ for an ID-20 and go confirmed. Too bad you have to do that back up at the TKT counter.

-FW

Calling the captain, what he truly is a prick may be over the top yet true. If the ID-90 rider however does simply say thanks for the ride with a big smile it would simply be a hoot watching the captain go ballistic. In that case there is truly nothing that can be done. Its a legal ID-90 pass and no verbal abuse. What you gonna do then? Cry and whine?

 

[D'Angelo]

As a former gate agent I hate to tell you but the Captain can deny you a seat on the airplane wether or not you have an ID-90. At both of my previous Airlines the Captain had the final say on NRSA's, if he/she didn't want you on board you weren't getting on, period. If you're a dick to the CA as a Non Rev you will not ride, then the gate agent can't do anything but list you for the next one.

He can as a jumpseater however if he doesnt specify to the gate agent not to allow a ID-90 then its gonna fly. Its a beautiful way to bypass the arrogant one. Just make sure you dont clue him into what your plotting. Jumpseaters can board whenever really. Preboard is the best just in case you get denied so you have enough time to work your ID-90 magic. Usually the captain is too busy to tell the gate to deny an ID-90 as well which is simply marvelous

 

[arthompson]

all the captain has to do is tell the gate agent you don't go, it doesn't matter how you're trying to get on, jumpseat or pass, you don't go, period

 

[D'Angelo]

all the captain has to do is tell the gate agent you don't go, it doesn't matter how you're trying to get on, jumpseat or pass, you don't go, period

True but the captain usually does not think of this. He just says denied and thinks hes god almighty. Then the pass is used, he has a ruptured blood vessel after the flight and everyone is happy. Thats why you play it cool. Just pretend like youve met your fate then whip out your secret weapon behind his back after he thinks hes so smart simply denying the jumpseat. Its almost like a work of art

 

[FoxyWhiskey]

all the captain has to do is tell the gate agent you don't go, it doesn't matter how you're trying to get on, jumpseat or pass, you don't go, period

Exactly! :laugh:

-FW

 

[FoxyWhiskey]

Ooooh, and changing clothes really fast like Superman is gonna fool the crew, isn't it? Think they won't notice you? Are you serious? It's a small plane, we notice everything. Besides, I think you just love stirring the pot and need to get over the fact that you aren't going to ride. You sure are shedding light on the situation, too bad it's not positive.

Sorry, but a turd non-rev is a turd non-rev, no matter how ya float it. Or in this case, how you dress....

-FW

 

[D'Angelo]

Ooooh, and changing clothes really fast like Superman is gonna fool the crew, isn't it? Think they won't notice you? Are you serious? It's a small plane, we notice everything. Besides, I think you just love stirring the pot and need to get over the fact that you aren't going to ride. You sure are shedding light on the situation, too bad it's not positive.

Sorry, but a turd non-rev is a turd non-rev, no matter how ya float it. Or in this case, how you dress....

-FW

Well the pilots are up front doing their duties so they arent going to watch every passenger come on board. As far as the FA if its someone with a boarding pass I highly doubt shes gonna care. Thats whats the beautiful part. Plus is the captain really going to take a delay for someone with a valid boarding pass? I doubt it.

 

[PCL_128]

Hate to break it to you, Duh-angelo, but if I deny someone a jumpseat then I'll dang sure be checking the back of the plane before letting the FA close up to make sure he isn't still on the plane. No matter what, SCABs and HoJet/Freedumb pseudo-scabs don't ride on my airplane. I don't care if they go back and pay full fare.

 

[arthompson]

As an agent I didn't put someone on board after they'd been denied a jumpseat unless the Capt said that he would only take them on a pass. For example, carrier has limited J/S (I ground handled 3 carriers in one station).

 

[D'Angelo]

No biggie like I say most people dont check that stuff and just deny the jumpseat. Trust me ive heard more than 1 story so the ID-90 usually works. Sure there are some that would probably be checking. If its a big airplane as well then it will take quite a while to do the cabin sweep. Plus the situation can easily be remedied by using your "prick sensing" abilities. If you have a bad feeling use a non rev pass or an ID-90. The captain will never know you got on the plane to begin with. Then when you deplane say thanks for the ride and proudly show whatever airline your working for with a big grin. Funny stuff

 

[737 Pylt]

Then when you deplane say thanks for the ride and proudly show whatever airline your working for with a big grin. Funny stuff

Please make sure you stop by the cockpit and proudly introduce yourself!
737

 

[doh]

Well the pilots are up front doing their duties so they arent going to watch every passenger come on board. As far as the FA if its someone with a boarding pass I highly doubt shes gonna care. Thats whats the beautiful part. Plus is the captain really going to take a delay for someone with a valid boarding pass? I doubt it.

Maybe a marginal guy like you is working while they are coming down, but not me. I have all my stuff done before the first passenger boards. If I threw you off once, you ain't riding! It only takes 3 minutes to get everything done that I gotta do.

 

[doh]

Blame the angry, vocal minority fired up by the union. They are the ones that always start this $hit. I always carry extra ID-90s just hoping for a day on another airline where someone actually tries that jumpseat war crap. Never happened to us at comair but its a good money in the bank policy.

Actually, if you carry id-90's, you are the one who has the anger issues. I just show up and smile. I have never had a problem. You, on the other hand, are spoiling for a fight so badly that you carry "ammunition" for the war. How angry is that. Get some counseling son.

 

[Ready2Fly]

So basically what you are saying is that everyone should bump black comair pilots?