Furloughs at Kalitta Air

[flynhigh27]

well this is one of the most depressing threads i have ever read! Moving on to the diarrea thread to cheer me back up.

 

[dakotaHC8]

If I have to take a job at Southern to keep flying, I just assume give up flying. No thanks on the 40 day trips.

Good, because I F-ing hate whiners.

I've been at Southern for over 3 years, and have never once pulled a 40 day trip... Even with having many of my monthly schedules running back to back.

Does it ever happen...? Yeah.

But with most things "Southern", your schedule is what you make of it. Most of the guys here that have been out that long, have done it on purpose to make $.

I have said it before, and I will say it again. Anyone working ACMI Cargo is going to take a lifestyle hit one way or the other... And the supposed advantages that people on here love to wave in our faces, seem kinda stupid when you bring them up in a thread about furloughs

Every ACMI outfit has it's pros and cons, and in the end, they pretty much even out to the same level of suffering... Bashing other airlines will not negate the fact that you are living the same crappy lifestyle Genius. :laugh:

That being the case, feel free to keep your opinion (of an airline you have not actually worked for) to yourself. You are no more an expert on Southern than I am on World, and I'm not talking trash about your outfit.

Work for Brown or Purple, and I'll believe how much "better" you have it over the rest of us Cargo Dogs... Otherwise you're just calling the kettle black pal.

 

[Heywood Jablomi]

Good, because I F-ing hate whiners.

etc.

Southern Air is a good outfit with a strong business model and the deep pockets to back it up. They work their folks hard, no doubt. They also take good care of their folks. Most importantly for folks on this board, they will be hiring soon.

Once a again, soft landings to those affected by the Kalitta furloughs.

 

[Classicdriver]

I bet you will see furloughs at Southern before you will see any hiring. Time will tell.

 

[Flyingtom145]

I bet you will see furloughs at Southern before you will see any hiring. Time will tell.

Southern just announced end of year bonuses. Hopefully that is not a sign of furloughs.

 

[Classicdriver]

Bonus's are for past performance. Nothing to do with the future.

 

[Heywood Jablomi]

I bet you will see furloughs at Southern before you will see any hiring. Time will tell.

Thanks for the Christmas cheer, Polyanna!

 

[ironspud]

Southern just announced end of year bonuses.

Wow! They're still doing that. Good on 'em.

 

[unwashed]

I just got my Christmas Bone-us in Certified letter form.

 

[swordfish]

sorry to hear that! best of luck to all you guys at kalitta.

 

[weasel_lips]

Good, because I F-ing hate whiners.

I've been at Southern for over 3 years, and have never once pulled a 40 day trip... Even with having many of my monthly schedules running back to back.

Does it ever happen...? Yeah.

But with most things "Southern", your schedule is what you make of it. Most of the guys here that have been out that long, have done it on purpose to make $.

Dude, they suck no matter which way you slice it.

I will pass on making 3 grand a month to be gone 20 plus days at a pop or up to 40 days in some cases.

 

[swordfish]

Dude, they suck no matter which way you slice it.

I will pass on making 3 grand a month to be gone 20 plus days at a pop or up to 40 days in some cases.

I'm not sure where u came up with $3000 month. just looked at what i made last year here at SA. $100,081. 7 months as an FO and 5 months as Capt. including my $5000 Bonus at the first of the Year, And the Christmas Bonus in Dec. (FYI 2nd year pay scale (67.50 FO and 110Hr Capt.)

BTW. weasel_lips best luck to you at World I hope you never need to turn a job down here at Southern and have a merry Christmas!!!!!

 

[weasel_lips]

Monthly guarantee: 60 hours @ $59.00 hr for FO. That's $3540 after taxes you are talking a whopping $2,480 a month take home pay for 20 days or more a month away from home. Just not worth it.

If people are upgrading in less then a year, that speaks volumes about the working conditions.

 

[vtwo]

when are you people going to get it?

Hourly wage means Jack!!!!!!
w2 gross at year end vs number of days gone from home.

period.

plus health, travel, 401k, and any other things you negotiate.

 

[FreightGod]

If people are upgrading in less then a year, that speaks volumes about the working conditions.

Or about expansion/retirements.

 

[swordfish]

Who cares anyways best of luck to all that are on the street....
Sword.... and Merry X-mas

 

[lear24]

Speaking of how good it is at Southern, have they stopped firing guys for posting on the internet so you can start your own thread instead of jacking this one and boasting about your bonuses in a thread about furloughs at another carrier? Just wondering.

 

[waka]

Monthly guarantee: 60 hours @ $59.00 hr for FO. That's $3540 after taxes you are talking a whopping $2,480 a month take home pay for 20 days or more a month away from home. Just not worth it.

If people are upgrading in less then a year, that speaks volumes about the working conditions.

you just keep at it don't you? did you get turned down by them or something? or some other reason for that chip on your shoulder?

dude, shut up.

 

[weasel_lips]

just looked at what i made last year here at SA. $100,081. 7 months as an FO and 5 months as Capt. including my $5000 Bonus at the first of the Year, And the Christmas Bonus in Dec. (FYI 2nd year pay scale (67.50 FO and 110Hr Capt.)

Wow... A 747 Captain is making 100 grand a year!

Shouldnt you make like 2 to 3 times that being a widebody international captain and all?

This profession has gone down the crapper.

 

[airgator]

Dude, it's second year pay. I don't know too many places where you can pull 2-3 times that in you second year.