Ft. Rucker?

[Birdstrike]

....George?

George was the name of the overspeed governor in the TH-55.
If you rapped on too much throttle too quickly, George would kick in and bump the RPMs back down to prevent an overspeed.

I don't think he'll be back unless the Army goes back to recips for primary.

 

[Hogprint]

Birdstrike,

I remember seeing a couple of O3 IPs in Cobra hall when I was going through. All the primary and Inst guys were retired and I can't recall who the contractor was at the time.

Your right though...it will all come full circle in a few years!

 

[Kuma]

How does the Army justify doing all the training in the selected airframe? I imagine that the cost of a 64 per flight hour completely dwarfs the cost of a TH67 flight hour. Plus, they would have to generate so many more combat airframes that the amount of maintenace workers would be staggering. Do they have contract maintenace, or do they use soldiers? How can they pull combat airframes out of Iraq/Afghanistan just to fill the flight line at Rucker?

I understand the desire to have a new aviator more experienced in his assigned airframe, I just can't believe that the Army will cover the financial and logistical cost.

 

[Hogprint]

How does the Army justify doing all the training in the selected airframe? I imagine that the cost of a 64 per flight hour completely dwarfs the cost of a TH67 flight hour. Plus, they would have to generate so many more combat airframes that the amount of maintenace workers would be staggering. Do they have contract maintenace, or do they use soldiers? How can they pull combat airframes out of Iraq/Afghanistan just to fill the flight line at Rucker?

I understand the desire to have a new aviator more experienced in his assigned airframe, I just can't believe that the Army will cover the financial and logistical cost.

Kuma,

Your obviosly looking at this through an AF spectrum!

Unless anything has changed, all maint is contract at Rucker. Initial and Instrument tng is done in the 67. Then you move on to mission specific tng in your airframe. The airframes at Rucker will probably remain there for the duration of their life (I'm sure there are exceptions). When we were training on the UH-1s, they were all Nam era birds. They even had a couple of 59' frames in service around 90' (retired later that year) that I had the chance to fly.

I guess that part of training would be comparable to the Navys RAG maybe? The difference being we just had the pleasure of camping out in UCLA. (Unknown Corner of Lower Alabama!)

 

[nosehair]

Hey! So was I!

Hey, Andy! You got lost...so, were you an instructor?...or did you just go through helicopter flight school an' on to Nam?...? what? Did you live in Dothan, Enterprise, or Ozark? I lived in all of 'em...

Gold Flight 72-07

 

[jeb]

Wow! When I went through Mother Rucker in 80 we got to fill out the "Dream Sheet" on what track or aircraft we wanted to fly. I chose to stay with the "Old Huey" because I knew the Cobra guys wouldn't be knocking down much flight. As I recall everyone who wanted scout or cobra's got it. There was no Fixed Wing track available at the time, you had to be W3 or W4 to be even considered. Birdstrike you are correct on the Commisioned Officers IP training, I showed up for the Advance course in 84 and the group of us who had orders for IP training, our orders were cancelled because unless you were going overseas the Commisioned side got our slots. Things sure have changed.

Orange Flight 80-27

 

[Birdstrike]

..Did you live in Dothan, Enterprise, or Ozark? I lived in all of 'em...

Gold Flight 72-07

I'll never forget the look on my wife's face, a Yankee, when I asked her whether she'd prefer to live in Ozark or Enterprise?

 

[Hobit]

You haven't experienced 'The South' until you've lived in Daleville!

(pronounced correctly, daleville lasts 5 seconds)

 

[D17s]

I liked the barber shop in Daleville with the Korean girls who would give you a neck massage and hair cut for $1.50. 1981 dollars.

81-15

 

[Hogprint]

I liked the barber shop in Daleville with the Korean girls who would give you a neck massage and hair cut for $1.50. 1981 dollars.

81-15

Still there last time I went through in 95. I think the price went up to $8 though...

 

[Nightmare67]

I heard that that TRADOC's doing away with the colored baseball caps or it may already have happened.

First black berets for all and now this.

Is nothing sacred?

Orange Flight
'83

Hey Birdstrike, were you 83-1? I was in that class.

 

[Birdstrike]

I had to check, it's been awhile. I was Orange 84-2.

 

[Nightmare67]

Just missed each other! Small world.

 

[ruhroa]

usually not on this site but, wow, it is amazing how much time has gone by. I gradyeeated (yes i spelled it that way on purpose) Huey track 88-22 then went to cobra AQC . scary thing is that has been over 16 years since then............................ bring back the baseball caps.
quick story, i was in the smithsonian air museum with my daughter last yr. She saw a Huey and i told her, real proud like...yep i flew them .........then i pointed out a Cobra and said yep flew them too......... we were walking a little later and real innocent like she looked up and said ........... gee dad you are old.............................

 

[Birdstrike]

...quick story, i was in the smithsonian air museum with my daughter last yr. She saw a Huey and i told her, real proud like...yep i flew them...

Assuming it was the new annex out in Fairfax that you visited. They do have a UH-1 there but I don't believe the main Air & Space Museum on the Mall has a Huey displayed anywhere.

I could never understand why an Army UH-1 isn't prominently displayed. I may be wrong but I believe it has something to do with the Smithsonian's weak knees when it comes to displaying anything used in warfare. They do it but they wished they didn't have to. Their Enola Gay exhibit was really watered-down and one-sided until veteran's groups forced them to tell the full story.

A UH-1 should certainly be on display in the main Smithsonian Air & Space Museum.

 

[ruhroa]

yep at udayse hall iad ........... sp

 

[earl]

Has anyone seen Harold Quattlebaum there lately?? He was a primary instructor of mine back in 1990.

earl

 

[ghostrider64]

Yeah we are all getting old...You especially know it when you see an old cobra you flew permanently attached to a pedestal on display....

Royle Blue 81-21...

TH-55, UH-1, OH-58, AH-1, AH-64, CH-47 and finally the slowest of them all C-23 LOL Somehow I missed the 60

 

[TCA]

The earlier post mentioning "george" could also have been George Perez..He's still alive and stirring. I sure some will recognize that name!!

Still Climbing
TCA

 

[ghostrider64]

I loved LA...Hell I got lucky in all three corners of the red triangle Daleville, Ozark and Enterprise...I guess I did spend entirely too much time stationed there. But I enjoyed flying the only solid green permanent party cobras. No school house for me