FSI instructor jobs

[Flyby1206]

Anyone have info on starting pay, scheds, competitive mins? Do you have to know someone currently working there to get an interview? Specifically interested in ILM, SAV, CMH, TEB, MCO locations. Thanks

 

[NCherches]

Hey, I heard 55K is about normal with good benifits. I lived in Wichita and have some friends at FSI Citation - Wichita. I think their schedule depends on class dates. I think the QOL if pretty good if you don't mind the teaching thing and not really getting to do much real flying. I see ads for them online and I don't think they care so much about times as your ability to teach. I know a guy who hadn't flown in 2 years who got a job but he will do well as he is a good instructor... Hope this helps a little...

 

[Flyby1206]

That does help a lot, thanks for the info. From what I gather the instructors seem to be pretty happy with relatively good benefits/pay/qol. I will have to get the ATP cert out of the way and apply.

 

[reepicheep]

I've been bugging 'em in LGB for over a year....nothing yet.

 

[Hawker800]

I have had two friends leave the airline world for the MCO facility. Both of them are very happy instructing there. Money is good and so is their life. Good luck with it!

 

[N1VIBS]

FSI ATL was looking for a CRJ and lear (31 or 45, not sure) instructors a few months ago. Not sure if they still are or not. Most of the instructors I know there seem to like it. Not sure about pay etc.

 

[learflyer]

I have had two friends leave the airline world for the MCO facility. Both of them are very happy instructing there. Money is good and so is their life. Good luck with it!

No doubt. My qol shot up tremendously when I left flying full time. I especially like the days which are only three hours long (sometimes).

 

[Flyby1206]

Anyone know what competitive mins would be for a FSI job? Do they prefer high time guys with lots of PIC?

 

[Rook]

FSI TOL mins weren't that high. There were a few Comm/Multi guys that flew nothing more complex then a 400 series Cessna and were in the Citation Excel program.

 

[El Piloto Chido]

As an instructor, are able to aqcuire an extra type rating or two outside of the one you need for the particular aircraft you're instructing in? For example, you're instructing in a Beechjet, but would like the Hawker 800 type for your own 'self betterment.'

Is it possible to get discounted training for such a thing? Or to 'buddy up' with a fellow instructor for the prep, then pay an examiner? Or is that completely off limits?

 

[100 c.i.]

fsi

Hey, I heard 55K is about normal with good benifits. I lived in Wichita and have some friends at FSI Citation - Wichita. I think their schedule depends on class dates. I think the QOL if pretty good if you don't mind the teaching thing and not really getting to do much real flying. I see ads for them online and I don't think they care so much about times as your ability to teach. I know a guy who hadn't flown in 2 years who got a job but he will do well as he is a good instructor... Hope this helps a little...

I am currently at one of the airline centers and love it. Great people that respect you, normal work sch. is about 13-18 days a month, and with the incentive pay we average about $7500 a month. Good Luck.....

 

[reepicheep]

Is LGB an airline center? Is the usual routine of dropping by/mailing resumes a way to get in or do you kind of have to know someone on the inside?

FSI is my first choice for what to do with The Rest Of My Life. I'd like to beat the stampede that's about to start when thousands of 121 pilots find themselves unemployed.

 

[100 c.i.]

Is LGB an airline center? Is the usual routine of dropping by/mailing resumes a way to get in or do you kind of have to know someone on the inside?

FSI is my first choice for what to do with The Rest Of My Life. I'd like to beat the stampede that's about to start when thousands of 121 pilots find themselves unemployed.

St.Louis and Houston are both Airline centers. One thing to remember we are still tied to the Airline Industry......

 

[JJET44]

Fyi

Anyone have info on starting pay, scheds, competitive mins? Do you have to know someone currently working there to get an interview? Specifically interested in ILM, SAV, CMH, TEB, MCO locations. Thanks

The Wilmington Training Center is in Wilmington DE not N.C. ILG not ILM

 

[CL600Pilot]

As an instructor, are able to aqcuire an extra type rating or two outside of the one you need for the particular aircraft you're instructing in? For example, you're instructing in a Beechjet, but would like the Hawker 800 type for your own 'self betterment.'

Is it possible to get discounted training for such a thing? Or to 'buddy up' with a fellow instructor for the prep, then pay an examiner? Or is that completely off limits?

No, you can't get free type ratings just to get them - you have to be teaching in that program. Employees do get a discount on type courses if you pay for them yourself but it's not that great of a discount - somebody told me 5% but I haven't taken the time to verify that.

No, you can't just 'buddy up' and take the checkride - you have to be a graduate of the approved training course - it's a Part 142 requirement.

If you're thinking about trying to get a type and doing some contract flying understand that the official FSI policy on outside flying is extremely, extremely, extremely restrictive. There is alot of "don't ask, don't tell" type stuff going on but if you follow the corporate policy you are basically limited to SIC flying in the type that you're teaching on and can only do that for FSI customers. Very restrictive.

 

[CL600Pilot]

Hey, I heard 55K is about normal with good benifits. I lived in Wichita and have some friends at FSI Citation - Wichita. I think their schedule depends on class dates. I think the QOL if pretty good if you don't mind the teaching thing and not really getting to do much real flying. I see ads for them online and I don't think they care so much about times as your ability to teach. I know a guy who hadn't flown in 2 years who got a job but he will do well as he is a good instructor... Hope this helps a little...

That's pretty close - depends on the airplane. General rule is that recip stuff starts at $50K, 'light' jets (Ultra, XL/S, Hawker) $60K, 'big' jets (Falcon 2000, Cit X, Sovereign) $70K - this can vary slightly by center but I've never seen it vary by more than $5K.

 

[CL600Pilot]

Anyone have info on starting pay, scheds, competitive mins? Do you have to know someone currently working there to get an interview? Specifically interested in ILM, SAV, CMH, TEB, MCO locations. Thanks

Schedules vary wildly by center and program. See post above for pay. No you don't have to know anyone working there but, as with every job, it would help. Mins can vary by center as well but basically my center looks for an ATP and a jet type rating OR the qualifications to get an ATP and unresticted type rating. Unrestricted type rating meaning the flight time or previous type rating (turboprop types don't count) so that you can take the 100% check in the sim and not have an SOE restriction.

No CFI required since it's under Part 142.

For what it's worth, the CMH center will be expanding from 7 sims to around 22 to 24 over the next 5 or so years to support NetJets.

PM me for more info.

 

[Spooky 2]

Alteon

Well if you want to step over the heavy iron side Boeing Alteon is hiring for the 777/787 along with the 747 in anticipation of both the 787 along with the 747-8 going into service next year. The 787 seems to be gaining traction so we'll just have to wait and see how this plays out. Take a look at alteontraining.com for more details.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Simuflite MMU was hiring recently.

I know one of their instructors who left was making around 130K. He was also worked an unsustainable schedule..

If Im going to be in a cockpit at 0300, at least make it a real one.

good luck!

:laugh:

 

[CL600Pilot]

Simuflite MMU was hiring recently.

I know one of their instructors who left was making around 130K. He was also worked an unsustainable schedule..

If Im going to be in a cockpit at 0300, at least make it a real one.

good luck!

:laugh:

You must have misunderstood him...there is no way a straight instructor is making anywhere near 130 -- was he a management guy? I just spoke to a couple different director level guys at Simuflite last week regarding a couple of different salary issues and 130 wasn't even in the realm of what was being discussed.

I'm not saying that he didn't make 130 but he didn't make it as a regular instructor - there has to be more to the story.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

You must have misunderstood him...there is no way a straight instructor is making anywhere near 130 -- was he a management guy? I just spoke to a couple different director level guys at Simuflite last week regarding a couple of different salary issues and 130 wasn't even in the realm of what was being discussed.

I'm not saying that he didn't make 130 but he didn't make it as a regular instructor - there has to be more to the story.

He was a more senior instructor in the program (there 2-3 years) but not a manager.

I want to say the exact number was 126K - severely underpaid for the job he had IMO.

He had weeks that were 100+ hours. This I know, I had initial with him.

 

[El Piloto Chido]

There is alot of "don't ask, don't tell" type stuff going on but if you follow the corporate policy you are basically limited to SIC flying in the type that you're teaching on and can only do that for FSI customers. Very restrictive.

Ok, fair enuff. Just to clarify though- as instructor, you get the 'full' PIC type for a given sim, yet FSI corp policy dictates that you only do limited flying for customer, and only as an SIC...correcto?

Thanks for answering all my dumba$$ questions.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Ok, fair enuff. Just to clarify though- as instructor, you get the 'full' PIC type for a given sim, yet FSI corp policy dictates that you only do limited flying for customer, and only as an SIC...correcto?

Thanks for answering all my dumba$$ questions.

EPC - the majority of sim instructors have limited time in the airplane, so regardless of the type you have, they usually fill in as SIC's only.

 

[tack]

do they hire part time instructors?

 

[JJET44]

do they hire part time instructors?

Just did a type ride with a part time guy. He's an AA pilot most days.

 

[tack]

would anyone know what they pay for contract instructors?

 

[El Piloto Chido]

Someone mentioned above that the schedules vary greatly between centers. It'd be nice if you could sort of "bid" a schedule to your liking 'a la airline.'

Most folks probably don't like the late nite sim sessions, or weekends. However, I'd be ALL OVER that stuff like a fly on ____. Anyone know if you have a say in the schedule, and whether it comes out weekly, monthly, ect.?

Does anyone know how the schedule is with the Cessna or Beech centers, for example Wichita and/or San Antonio?

 

[Rook]

When I was at FSI TOL, the program managers made up the skeds. If it was a busy time, then you'd probably be on for 6 or 7 days. I didn't mind the late nights because the training center wasn't as crowded.

Lots of good folks in TOL.

 

[iflyhigh]

CL600:

Will having a couple of Citation type ratings help in getting an interview with FSI? Just curious. I did both my Citation 500 and 650 series with FSI, plus numerous other training. I think its a great company.

thanks

 

[El Piloto Chido]

The more I research, the better it sounds. At the very least, it'd be a great place to hang one's hat for a few years- especially given the state of our industry. It'd probably make a good career as well.

I've heard a few different opinions about this, but supposing an instructor has a pretty solid background in pt 121, 135, corporate, mil or whatever: Is it very do-able for that individual to get back into the flying scene after a couple years? What about getting propositioned by the clients to work for them? Any info would be most apreciated, thanks all.