Freedom's Baaaaack!

[T-Gates]

There is an ad for BE1900D FO and Captain Slots for "Freedom Airlines" in PHX on Climbto350.

Any Mesa guys care to elaborate???

 

[xdashdriver]

No...

 

[T-Gates]

I'm just wondering if this move violates y'alls scope clause....again

 

[Av8rPHX]

JO cant just let F8 die. He wants to put one BE1900 on the F8 certificate, this is presumably to keep the certificate active. I look forward to the day when ship's 904-906 say "Operated by Mesa Airlines" on them instead of "Operated by Freedom Airlines".

 

[T-Gates]

I figured as much... But shouldn't the plane be crewed by pilots on the Mesa seniority list? I'm sure some AMW guys might jump at the chance to get out of garden spots like PKB and MSS.

Just questions from a curious outsider.

 

[CitationLover]

the Mesa union is weak and "did not see this coming".

the "ironclad" scope clearly states this flying should be done by MAG pilots on the seniority list.

we were sent an email asking for 4 crews to go over to Freedom and to "send our resumes" blah blah blah. two words Fuh-Q. there are plenty of those hungry for PHX as a domicile. they should not have a problem staffing it.

 

[BeechBabe]

But how many want the F8 stigma following them around?

 

[LaxPilot]

Once again, Mesa sets the bar another notch lower in our profession.

 

[CitationLover]

lax,

please explain how a single 1900d in PHX is "lowering the bar another notch for our profession"?

they don't follow the contract for items such as pay, vacation, cmf/cml, etc, what makes us think they will follow it regarding scope?

 

[SpacemanSpiff]

so much ignorance...

It is amazing how some of you guys are ready to bash Mesa and you don't even know the facts. Get a life you losers.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

It is amazing how some of you guys are ready to bash Mesa and you don't even know the facts. Get a life you losers.

It's because mesa is so bashable. Got a life, and am sure glad it's not yours!
PBR

 

[General Lee]

Spacemanspiff,


How much are you getting to fly that MD80 with winglets?.........




Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Rhoid]

Spacemanspiff,


How much are you getting to fly that MD80 with winglets?.........




Bye Bye--General Lee

Unfortunately thanks to the likes of him and others, just a few dollars an hour less than you will soon be making.

 

[Space Wrangler]

If anyone wants a Freedom Air SCAB list, PM me...I'll be more than happy to provide one.

 

[KCSO780]

Spacemanspiff,

How much are you getting to fly that MD80 with winglets?.........

Bye Bye--General Lee

That's Funny $hit............

 

[mesajock]

MD 80 with winglets

Hey General,
Not paid enough but its faster and goes higher. PS you think Cpt pay is bad FO pay is the same in the CRJ 200, 700 and 900.

 

[walpaper]

Hey General,
Not paid enough but its faster and goes higher.

Oh wow! Look at me! I fly a shiny, new jet that goes fast AND high! Go impress Mrs. Jones 1st grade class. Just don't be jealous if their weekly allowance is higher than your mesa slave wages.

 

[Cadillac]

amazing

posted by mesajock
"Hey General,
Not paid enough but its faster and goes higher."

wow. I don't know about the rest of you, but I would continue to fly freight in piston twins if I could get paid what a Delta pilot is paid to fly a 757.

mesajock's comment is an example of why the short-sighted, self-serving mesa pilot group is looked down upon by the rest of the industry. They gave up a chance at a decent contract in order to fly shiny new jets and to get quick upgrades through expansion. I imagine many of them who voted yes were sure they would only have to work under it for a year or two until they could continue in their fast-track careers to a major airline.
It now appears that their common defense line "but we had to stop freedumb air!" is as false as everyone told them it would be. Why would you even label yourself "mesajock"? Is that how you introduce yourself to the ladies at bars before leaving when you realize you don't have the money to buy her, (much less yourself,) a Natural Light beer?

(to those of you Natural Light beer fans, like myself, I only use this fine beverage as an example of the price range we have to deal with because of these jerks. I apologize if I have offended you. : )

 

[CitationLover]

cadillac,

there are plenty, most, mesa pilots who hate this company and hate this contract. on top of that we have to put up with faggity comments made by 135 operators such as yourself. imagine being in hell and reminded of it constantly.

LEARN about the old f@#$ing contract before commenting on our sh!tty new one. It sucked worse and our pay rates were improvements based upon our old sh!tty rates, thus making our current sh!t (minus the ty) rates. proving once again that even the white stuff on bird sh!t is still bird sh!t.

life sucks in MAG-land.

 

[WSurf]

Well Said!