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siucavflight

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Q: Are we talking a wet foot print on this flight? I'm not familiar with the MU2, but I plotted the route. Thanks in advance.

A: I am not sure exactly what Wet Footprint means? If you are referring to is fuel included the answer is yes. There are no other hidden expenses, just the...more



What a tool......................





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He probably wants you to pick up a few brown bag items for the trip back up.
 
Sounds like someone needs to call the Feds on this guy.
 
I don't know, the Tomahawk trip sounds like a blast. :puke:
 
This is just sickening. This guy should pay for his safety pilot. I think that I am going to bombard him with phone calls tomorrow.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Fly-...7QQihZ017QQcategoryZ63678QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Not that I agree with it or anything but, I think you need to read it again (or i read it wrong). The guy (company) is selling an "instructional" flight to BDA and back. He or whatever pilot is not looking for a safety pilot. The way I read it its like an instructor giving instruction or a BFR in a 172 by doing a x-country.

The part about the "observer" seats and selling them is where it gets alittle wierd.

Anyway just another semi-shady operation in our world that is aviation.

O and BTW - someone tell this guy to F#$^ off about the "airline pilot at 35,000ft" comment.
 
Sounds an awful lot like a 134.5 operation to me. Especially those observer seats he's selling.
 
Sounds an awful lot like a 134.5 operation to me. Especially those observer seats he's selling.
Yeah the obesrver seats are passengers wanting to go to the Bahamas.
 
How ya'll be findin' dis stuff on da innernet? I thought da innernet had only FI.com and P0rn...... Bouyyyyyyyy.....
 
I don't have time in the MU-2 but I have friends that lived to tell about it. Unless you know that airplane-and I mean type specific training-it will bite you in the arse if something goes wrong and you sould stay the hell away from it!
 
It sounds like the observer seats are simply students sitting in the back observing. He doesn't mention anything about leaving the observers there. He even mentions that they "might" have time to get a T-shirt. It sounds like a very short layover. If he can find people to pay for this, more power to him.
 
It sounds like the observer seats are simply students sitting in the back observing. He doesn't mention anything about leaving the observers there. He even mentions that they "might" have time to get a T-shirt. It sounds like a very short layover. If he can find people to pay for this, more power to him.
I agree that he is trying to make money, but the way he is selling it is that if you are going to move onto an airline job you need to do this, it is something that is highly valuable to the airlines, when we all know that this is not true, that and this is a dangerous airplane for someone with low time to be attempting a trip like this one.
 
Sounds an awful lot like a 134.5 operation to me. Especially those observer seats he's selling.

I went to the listing and did the ask the seller a question thing and inquired if this was a part 135 operation or a part 91 training flight. Also, what is the purpose of the observation seats? The listing has been closed :) You hanging in there Ike?
 
You guys must not be serious pilots:
"Any serious pilot seriously needs this type of exposure and the confidence that comes with it."

"There is a lot to learn and we plan to cover most of it." (maybe except the safety record of the MU-2)
 
I can't believe no one has figured it out yet. Short layover in a foreign county, short airplane, questionable legality. HE'S RUNNING DRUGS. No question in my mind. He gets a little extra cash from his "student" and also gets someone to pin it on if things go wrong.
 
And to think I could've been making thousands with my 182 instead of some kid totalling it out getting flipped overduring a taxi...
 
About 12 percent of all MU-2s ever manufactured have crashed with fatal results, according to an ABC News report, with an accident rate 78 percent higher than other twin-engine turboprops. Tancredo's office estimates that one out of every four MU-2s made have crashed, killing more than 250 people in about 200 separate incidents.

From link: http://media.www.avionnewspaper.com...spaper.com&MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com
 
During your 6 hour flight of a lifetime....

No kidding there! A fight in an MU2 probably WILL be a "flight of your lifetime" (read that...the last flight of your lifetime)
 
It even has a neat N number N999WW. Try saying it, Triple Nine Whiskey Whiskey.

That did it, I'm sold! Where do I sign?
 
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Q: Are we talking a wet foot print on this flight? I'm not familiar with the MU2, but I plotted the route. Thanks in advance.

A: I am not sure exactly what Wet Footprint means? If you are referring to is fuel included the answer is yes. There are no other hidden expenses, just the...more



What a tool......................





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"Bill is a 32,000 hour corporate and instructor pilot that has gained all of his flight time in general aviation, not airline experience where you build thousand of hours at 35,000 feet watching the autopilot. Bill knows what every pilot needs to be a much better pilot, and he delivers that knowledge to you like nobody else can. The instructor for your flight has been thoroughly oriented to your needs by Bill DiBiasio. It may even be Bill DiBiasio himself."

For someone who builds up his expertise so much you'd think he'd at least know what a wet footprint is if he's giving dual instruction on Atlantic crossings! :eek:
 
I see he's based in Providence. Anyone feel up to sending a tipoff to the Boston FSDO and watching the federales dance a whammy on this guy's arse?

Could be very entertaining.
 
I see he's based in Providence. Anyone feel up to sending a tipoff to the Boston FSDO and watching the federales dance a whammy on this guy's arse?

Could be very entertaining.
Yes, I think that would be a fantastic idea. The guy seems like a real tool box, and seems to think that he is Gods gift to aviation.
 
Most insurance companies won't insure you unless you have been through a approved training program. Also to fly the MU-2 you need a AD put in your logbook pertaining to ice training with the MU-2. By the sounds of this guy this ops is illegal.
 
I love the guys asking all the questions seeming so excited. Why does everybody want to fly with this dork?
 
Ha Ha !!!!
http://contact.ebay.com/ebaymotors/...Name=PageAskSellerQuestion_VI&frm=284&guest=1

Q: Your as fullof**** as a Christmas turkey. I get paid $100. a day to make the same trip in much nicer airplanes. Here's my question; How do you sleep at night?

A: We have pilots that would do the trip for free. Actually, we have a few younger CFII’s that would probably pay us to let them do the trip, but they won't bring nearly as much value to the paying customer as our senior flight instructors. It is not really about cost as much as it is value. If you are a CFII and can teach a student to perform various approaches flawlessly and confidently to minimums at high density airports then you are worth a lot more than $100 per day. As flight instructors for more than 40 years we get a lot of pilots for recurrent training that are already instrument rated and it is sad how much they missed when getting their rating, not to mention dangerous. Our goal is for all of our students to be able to confidently fly to the legal limit of the airplane, and to the minimum prescribed by the FAR’s, and we fully train to that standard. If you are already a highly proficient pilot then you understand what this means.
 

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