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Fractionals react to new NetJets contract

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Yeah griz i'm bored.... Just like familyguy you have to show everyone what a company Neal they really are.
 
No kidding Griz, these guys are unbelievable. Luckily I have talked to MANY CS guys on the road and they are all very cool, most even congratulate us and thank us for their raises. Amazing these three all showed up here to represent CS, anyone else from CS should be embarrassed. I do know this is not how they all feel.
 
Guitar rocker said:
Do you really think that you would have gotten such a raise if we didnt get our contract???? quote]

In one word...YES. Why in the world do you think your union helped in OUR raise. Time to get off the soapbox. Read the article. Like John Mellencamp says..."Don't give me none of that macho $hit, just learn how to play guitar"
 
FRACTRASH said:
Then please do me the favor, Kid.

Scooter.........I read the article from AIN. My question for you is that mgmt at NJA previously made several offers to the pilots/union (a rasie which was dependent on your percentile in the company)which was a raise but not what we wanted. I could understand that perhaps your mgmt was considering increasing and paralleling your pay based on NJA's mgmt proposals. I honestly couldnt believe for one minute that your mgmt was planning all along on giving you 90 at year 5 without seeing what our contract was going to offer. Are you telling me that you guys were planning on a firm 90 @ year 5 for this past october regardless of the outcome of our contract?????

If that were the case, lets say that you guys got 90k at year 5 right outta the blue this past october without knowing what our contract would offer. I wonder how your mgmt would have reacted if our contract was resolved this march and gave a 5 year cpnt 120??? Your mgmt would have had to follow suit, exactly what they have done right now knowing the outcome of our contract/raise. With THAT in mind, it clealry is no coincidence that you got the nice raise immediately following the outcome of OUR contract.

That my friend is what the article is talking about.
 
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"CitationShares’ pilot-pay increase wasn’t a knee-jerk reaction to the NetJets contract, according to J.D. Witzig, the company’s v-p of flight operations and chief pilot. In fact, Witzig said, management at the Greenwich, Conn.-based fractional provider agreed to the higher wages in the summer and announced them to the pilot group in October. He added that it was pure coincidence that CitationShares’ announcement came about the same time that NetJets reached a tentative agreement with its pilots."

Yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh, right.

I think most on this board smell what is being shoveled.

Out of all the blabbermouths out there, I can't believe this wasn't posted on FI 2 minutes after someone found out in October.

But hey, I just fly 'em and break 'em.

Jetsi
 
Humphreybogart said:
Guitar rocker said:
Do you really think that you would have gotten such a raise if we didnt get our contract???? quote]

In one word...YES. Why in the world do you think your union helped in OUR raise. Time to get off the soapbox. Read the article. Like John Mellencamp says..."Don't give me none of that macho $hit, just learn how to play guitar"

OUR union and pilots didnt just help in "our rasie" as you say. Lets put it correctly here sport........WE got YOUR raise. Now get back on that african queen, smoke em good smokes that our NJA brothers and sisters helped you pay for and sail away to some remote island and stay there sport!
 
Guitar rocker said:
OUR union and pilots didnt just help in "our rasie" as you say.

I am not trying to split nickles here, but since there are so many english and grammar majors on here, did you actually mean "raise"? Just trying to help so you don't get bashed!
 
Since it looks like BB himself is now looking for work, maybe he can move over to CS and speed up the organizing efforts over there.
 
Humphreybogart said:
I am not trying to split nickles here, but since there are so many english and grammar majors on here, did you actually mean "raise"? Just trying to help so you don't get bashed!

Yes Bogart. Thanks for your help.
 

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