fractionals' future

[Geronimo4497]

That's what I thought... Operationally speaking is there much difference ?

Not that I can tell, and I fly for a stictly 91K operator. So long to those 18 hour duty days, although some of them were fun, depending on the destination.....

 

[El Chupacabra]

I think they will fire the pilot group and start over.

There you go. You cracked the code. This is exactly what is about to happen.

 

[ProFracPilot]

So long to those 18 hour duty days, although some of them were fun, depending on the destination.....

18 hour duty day? You describe "them" as fun? I would call them "dangerous". I'd guess you were so fatigued at the end of your 18 hour duty days that you were slap-happy and confusing it for "fun".

Think about it.

 

[buttercup]

There you go. You cracked the code. This is exactly what is about to happen.

Good let them fire everyone.. Then we'll seperate the men from the boys!! Just as is the case in life, the strong with prosper in other venues/companies!!

STFD!! Our salaries are keeping the bar down in the corporate world.. If they want to fire everyone and bring back pilot sluts who work cheap indefinetly it's not a place Id wanna be anyway!!

 

[dsptchrnja]

That's what I thought... Operationally speaking is there much difference ?

When 91K first came out NJA gave owners (not card holders) the option to fly their trips 91k or 135, it was up to them. When it started they were asking US which they should fly under because they didn't know themselves for the most part.

Operationally, the only thing they notice is that if they fly part 135 all POB have to show I.D. If they are 91K - just the lead pax.
-91K trips require a short statement during the safety brief that the trip is being flown under the direction of X but being operated by NetJets (something like that).
-Both 91K and 135 can have DAAP rules applied so they sometimes only require 80% of the rwy vice 60%.
-Both rules cannot exceed 10 hours cockpit time in 24 hours.
-Landing, T.O. and alternate mins are stated differently.

 

[El Chupacabra]

Good let them fire everyone.. Then we'll seperate the men from the boys!! Just as is the case in life, the strong with prosper in other venues/companies!!

Good thing I have my Teamsters card. I can replace my 7th yr X PIC pay tomorrow by hauling aggregate in a $150K truck vs the $19 Million jet.

 

[Geronimo4497]

18 hour duty day? You describe "them" as fun? I would call them "dangerous". I'd guess you were so fatigued at the end of your 18 hour duty days that you were slap-happy and confusing it for "fun".

Think about it.

I was being facetious.

I hate to admit it, but I think the FAA actually got a new rule set up the right way. Anyhoo, wasn't this thread supposed to be about the future of the frax business. The only way to fly, if you ask me; but I have a rather vested interest in our continued growth.

 

[NiteWitchWanabe]

Thanks, Geronimo4497, for bringing this thread back to base. I don't think you're being facetious when you say that frax is the only way to fly, but given the many alternatives available -- including the card programs, charter and the up-and-coming new segment of flight with the VLJ -- don't you see fractionals entering a period of slow growth at best?

 

[Geronimo4497]

The way I see it, charter card programs, for the most part, are fractional operators. The VLJ segment is a long time coming and in reality, why would someone or some corporation with travel money to spare want to spend it cramed in the back of some machine no bigger than a Malibu?

I'm sure that it will take away from the business segement somewhat, but from what I see at my place of emloyment, things are growing steadily, but not at a rapid rate. I personally like it that way.

Steady Growth=Happy Employees=Future Business.
IMHO

 

[NiteWitchWanabe]

Point well taken! Thanks!