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The belly of the fueselage ripped open anyhoo...

I might have even heard that the cargo doors popped open too. Not positive though.
 
Rhetorical

What is the procedure for a dual engine failure, 3000' above the most densely populated area in the country?
 
landlover said:
wait! there really is a "ditching" button in an airbus?
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Yes there is. It probably isn't nearly as critical as people think. I closes a few small valves below the waterline. If the belly of the airplane rips open, it will not even matter if you push it or not.


The airplane will sink no matter what you do. The ditching push button might just make it sink slower. Everyone got out alive so either way, in this case extra time was not needed.
 
What is the procedure for a dual engine failure, 3000' above the most densely populated area in the country?

Exactly!!
 
Why does that make them "dirt bags" if in fact the button was not pushed in disregard of procedures?
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They did no such thing (disregarding procedures, as you put it). They just never made it that far in the checklist... So, would you have them push the button out of sequence (without regard to procedures)? What is proper in the case that you don't have time (or in this case speed/altitude) to run the full checklist. Seems to me that he made the right choice...

Besides, they were "dirt bags" long before this event ever happened, and will be "dirt bags" long after it is forgotten... (All of them, Fox, CNN, NBC, etc...)
 
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Listening to Kitty Higgins, I got the sense that she was quick to clarify any inaccuracies being put forth by the reporters during the conference. She commended the crew numerous times and really seemed in a sense to be defending the pilots from stupid reporter questions/insinuations.

I think the NTSB and FAA are gonna be VERY fair with these guys.
 
Isn't the ditch button kind of useless? I mean I don't think it's possible to put it down in water and not break something that will allow some water in. Hell, we got an example of a best case senerio of a water landing and it still opened up a little.
 
1st Rate said:
What is the procedure for a dual engine failure, 3000' above the most densely populated area in the country?

Exactly!!
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PIC...."you have the controls. Aim for that river".

SIC..."My controls".

PIC...do the QRC Ditching items (ie Ditch button...press). TEST items...."prepare for ditching in 30 seconds".

PIC...."ok, your doing a good job. Ditch button is done, FAs notified. Anything else I can do for you?".

SIC..."yeah, you can tell Matt Lauer to go f*** himself".

''''''*****

Ever notice when there is a house fire, that the Fire Captain stays outside of the house and barks orders.
 
skiandsurf said:
PIC...."you have the controls. Aim for that river".

SIC..."My controls".

PIC...do the QRC Ditching items (ie Ditch button...press). TEST items...."prepare for ditching in 30 seconds".

PIC...."ok, your doing a good job. Ditch button is done, FAs notified. Anything else I can do for you?".

SIC..."yeah, you can tell Matt Lauer to go f*** himself".

''''''*****

Ever notice when there is a house fire, that the Fire Captain stays outside of the house and barks orders.
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LMAO Pretty funny...
 
Why?
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Heck, it takes me 2 minutes to find the thing when I'm on the ground getting ready to deice......

You must not have to deice very often. I can find it with my eyes closed by this time of the year!;)
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Perhaps it was because the F/O had 35 hours in type and it's on page 3 of the checklist?

Just a thought.

-fate
 
skiandsurf said:
Ever notice when there is a house fire, that the Fire Captain stays outside of the house and barks orders.
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Actually they are in the house with the attack crew, usually 3rd on the hose telling them where to go/what to spray and communicating with the Chief...who is outside barking orders.
 
Fox news is now reporting that the "Easy" button was not functioning properly. Seriously, I can't imagine a better outcome for such a perilous situation. Kudos!
 
Lighten Up Francis

FatesPawn said:
Perhaps it was because the F/O had 35 hours in type and it's on page 3 of the checklist?

Just a thought.

-fate
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Guess you missed the ;) huh. I don't think it was really that big of a deal. Not Monday morning quarterbacking the guy.
 
hockeypilot44 said:
Yes there is. It probably isn't nearly as critical as people think. I closes a few small valves below the waterline. If the belly of the airplane rips open, it will not even matter if you push it or not.


The airplane will sink no matter what you do. The ditching push button might just make it sink slower. Everyone got out alive so either way, in this case extra time was not needed.
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If they lost bleed air most of the valves including the outflow valve would fail closed anyway.
 
Everybody's got to find something to nitpick. It isn't the news unless someone gets torn down.
 
The most important thing to remember is when contract negotiations start, they are overpaid and not worth the money!;) Other than that...is nothing to see.
 
Fox should be ban for not falling in line with the new world wide leftist movement...Who needs fair and balanced anyway. Bring back the Fairness Act. Yeah that will fix them!
 
embraerjetpilot said:
They dont call Fox News Nazi News for nothing!
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Who's 'they'? You? Haven't heard this cutesy label until now.

Yeah, unbiased news really does suck doesn't it? Go watch the Clinton News Network or the nutjobs over at MSNBC and keep you head buried in the sand. They'll tell you what you need to know and have you indoctrinated in no time.

The Messiah will make everything better after the Immaculation today ;)
 
CAVEAT: I don't fly the A320.

Somebody in another thread brought up the point that if both engines flamed out or had severe damage that there would be no bleed/pneumatic air to close the valve even if the button was pushed. Now if the APU was running then thats another story. But the only 320 operator I have seen is NWA and they shut down the APU after engine start. We do the same thing on the 737 assuming there is no need for its use in improved climb, or Icing near the sfc.


Moral of my story is having the "ditch switch" pushed or not is irrelevant given the situation.
 

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