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[Herkdrv]

I've been fired, suspended, and had numerous letters put in my PRIA reportable file fighting for the rights of pilots. Have you? Brass balls are useless if you get them chopped off by being an idiot.

And yet you claim you'll quit before stepping foot in Dallas for newhire training.

 

[booo]

I have never seen a time that you could get three regional pilots to piss off a bridge at the same time; even if the Earth caught fire. This ought to be a HOOT!!!!! Running out now before all the popcorn is gone!

Sorry, this forum lacks the emoticon for popcorn eating. So just imagine one here:

 

[PCL_128]

I remember reading one article about it where the judge was so pissed when the pilots refused his back-to-work order, that his quote was, ..."by the time he was done with them, that the [APA's] assets would fit in a single overhead bin."

It was actually better than that. "[t]he assets of the APA will fit into the overhead bin of a Piper Cub."

I give him points for humor, even while he was being a dick.

 

[PCL_128]

And yet you claim you'll quit before stepping foot in Dallas for newhire training.

Not sure how that's related to the discussion.

 

[tomgoodman]

Perhaps this analogy would apply: if competing airlines make individual decisions to raise fares, that's OK, but if there's any evidence that they talked to each other about doing so, that's not OK.

 

[J.Otto]

Perhaps this analogy would apply: if competing airlines make individual decisions to raise fares, that's OK, but if there's any evidence that they talked to each other about doing so, that's not OK.

Precisely. Collusion takes place on the golf course; it's not found in the coffee minutes memo produced to the DOJ or FTC.

 

[mesaserf]

Arbitrators aren't idiots. In fact, they got to be arbitrators and make $1,000+ a day because they're incredibly smart. They can see through BS, and they aren't handcuffed by rules of evidence and other things that judges deal with. So if they get the strong feeling that you're lying to them and giving them a BS doctor's note, then you aren't getting your job back. Don't be an idiot.

I'm not sure if you are inferring wrong doing by the Mesa pilots but I can answer to this.

All the sick notes were legitimate. From what I was told one guy had dental surgery, one was in a car accident and the third had a wife who was battling a very serious health issue. (His mistake was not using FMLA)

Jonathan (our CEO)was pissed about the number of sick calls system wide and told the chief pilots office to make an example out of some pilots to put the fear of God into the rest.

I was on the sidelines as a volunteer and witnessed how our MEC just let this happen without a peep. Same for ALPA National.

I wonder how a pilot group like Delta would have reacted...

 

[Roomwithaview]

I'm not sure if you are inferring wrong doing by the Mesa pilots but I can answer to this.

All the sick notes were legitimate. From what I was told one guy had dental surgery, one was in a car accident and the third had a wife who was battling a very serious health issue. (His mistake was not using FMLA)

Jonathan (our CEO)was pissed about the number of sick calls system wide and told the chief pilots office to make an example out of some pilots to put the fear of God into the rest.

I was on the sidelines as a volunteer and witnessed how our MEC just let this happen without a peep. Same for ALPA National.

I wonder how a pilot group like Delta would have reacted...

Sounds like an old AAI typical mgt tactic. Had a long discussion with a dude that was anti-contract and went out on OJI. Said the company tried to railroad him, hired a PI and everything.

Another example of what a great place it was.

 

[PCL_128]

Says the guy from the company that fired a guy because he gave two weeks notice?

 

[Roomwithaview]

Says the guy from the company that fired a guy because he gave two weeks notice?

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We quickly put that one to rest. I think it was less than a week.

We have our problems but two things we've been pretty good at are keeping archaic disciplinary tactics off the property and hiring scabs. More importantly-not raising an eyebrow when mgt promotes them. At least until we acquired the tranny.

:angryfire

 

[redflyer65]

Sounds like an old AAI typical mgt tactic. Had a long discussion with a dude that was anti-contract and went out on OJI. Said the company tried to railroad him, hired a PI and everything.

Another example of what a great place it was.

Exactly, and he wasn't the only one.

Don't forget though, the had 'pretty good pay'.

 

[redflyer65]

We quickly put that one to rest. I think it was less than a week.

Similar to putting the AirTran codeshare with SkyWest to rest quickly.

 

[Flopgut]

I respect and appreciate XJT pilots. However it seems that spending all that time being highest paid 145 pilots and having the great contract that they did for so long has become meaningless. Like it never happened?! That contract cost the combined CAL/XJT groups a crapload! $.80 of a total union $ went to XJT negotiating for a long time, that happened to coincide with a time that CAL plots were NOT doing well. I didn't sick out because my specific contract was bad and I didn't call for a halt to spending inordinately on XJT. All these airlines have an ebb and flow to them. FFD was a failed prospect from the beginning. If you're a regional pilot, your cheese is being moved, that's all. You just have to be willing to move with it. Not saying I don't want to see your pay go up guys. I feel like at UAL we already did it: we doubled new hire pay.

 

[Nindiri]

Says the guy from the company that fired a guy because he gave two weeks notice?

As far as I know, that one turned out to be just a rumor. Our biggest problems now have more to do with safety issues than management disciplinary tactics. Lately, we can't seem to fly routine go-arounds, with two relatively recent flights slowing below 90 knots as they pitched up, one of them literally coming within 3 knots of stalling. Scary stuff.

 

[PCL_128]

It wasn't just a rumor. It was confirmed. But it was corrected quite quickly, I'll give them that.