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Dizel8

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October 24, 2012

Stand as One

Fellow ALPA member,

Whether you fly for a mainline airline, a cargo operation, or a regional carrier, widebody or narrowbody, you are needed, now, in the aviation battle of our lives.

On this issue, we must stand as one, now, or we will be undone.

Last month, the European Union (EU) finally went public with what we have known it’s been plotting to do for some time: The EU is going to again attack our laws on foreign ownership and control.

The goal: to enable foreign investors from around the world—corporations, airlines, and even countries—to buy and take control of our airlines.

Simple, stark, and devastating, this change spells catastrophe for our carriers and our careers—just when some of our airlines are finally recovering from the misery of the last decade.

Once they have control, foreign investors, including state-owned airlines in the EU, China, and the Gulf, can take over our foreign flying, merely by reversing the destination and origination points of a flight, so that what was once ORD-SIN-ORD will become SIN-ORD-SIN. The crews will be foreign-based and operating under a totally different set of safety and security rules.

So we will be feeders for the foreign owners’ international flying. Then they will attack our cabotage rules and go after our domestic markets. Aviation in this country will go the way of the maritime industry, and we’ll be finished.

You can see it unfolding right now. Qantas and Emirates recently announced a “global partnership.” Reading between the lines of the newly-structured alliance, it is clear that Emirates will perform the overwhelming majority of international flying while Qantas will remain largely a domestic feeder carrier.

Although the population of Australia is almost three times as large as that of the Emirates, of the 98 weekly Australia-Dubai flights, Qantas will operate only 14 while Emirates will operate 74. Emirates will also be taking over many of Qantas’ flights into Europe and Asia. Of the 7 daily flights into Heathrow, Emirates gets 5 and Qantas 2.

We have been gearing up for this fight, but we have much to do. In my letter to you earlier this month, I described how we have changed the way we tackle problems in Washington, with a pilot partisan agenda that does not let party politics get in the way of our work in D.C. With a team of highly skilled professional staff and volunteer pilot advocates, we are building the network we need to succeed in Washington.

But it’s not enough. Our recent battles in Washington pale in comparison to the onslaught we are about to face on foreign ownership.

Here’s what we need you to do right now:

First, contact your local council representatives and ask how you can give time to support the pilot legislative affairs network on your airline.

Second, print this e-mail and forward it to your friends, and talk to your fellow ALPA members about this issue, and don’t let up.

Third, talk to pilots from other airlines not represented by ALPA and tell them that their leaders needs to get in line with ALPA on this issue.

Fourth, stop stalling on your contribution to the ALPA-PAC.

Fifth, get your pen and paper and your walking shoes ready, because you’re going to be called on to write letters by the dozens and, when the time comes, to stand up for our profession through marches and demonstrations.

If we are united, we’ll overcome this challenge, again. If we are divided, we will fail, and our jobs will be taken from us, permanently.

On this issue, we must stand as one, now, or we will be undone.

In unity,

Capt. Lee Moak
 
First, contact your local council representatives and ask how you can give time to support the pilot legislative affairs network on your airline.

Second, print this e-mail and forward it to your friends, and talk to your fellow ALPA members about this issue, and don’t let up.

Third, talk to pilots from other airlines not represented by ALPA and tell them that their leaders needs to get in line with ALPA on this issue.

Fourth, stop stalling on your contribution to the ALPA-PAC.

Fifth, get your pen and paper and your walking shoes ready, because you’re going to be called on to write letters by the dozens and, when the time comes, to stand up for our profession through marches and demonstrations.

Sixth, Stop Taking jobs with foreign carriers. Really, we have spent all these years keeping you regional pukes down and now you have the balls to take good, high paying jobs. Darn regional guys trying to take my job again. Quick we need new scope...guess we took our eyes off the 900 million A380's taking our passengers

If we are united, we’ll overcome this challenge, again. If we are divided, we will fail, and our jobs will be taken from us, permanently.

On this issue, we must stand as one, now, or we will be undone.
 
Have fun Ridgeback, although that might be hard carrying that cross on your back!
 
I found this 2006 voting record of politicians who blocked foreign airlines being allowed to control U.S. Airlines. I was sad to see that only 42% of Republicans voted to block foreign control of U.S. Airlines but 96% of Democrats voted to block foreign control. Why are many politicians in favor of strong immigration laws but satisfied with foreign countries controlling our airlines and outsourcing our jobs?

Voting Record: http://www.unitedafa.org/assets/pop/print.aspx?id=4314
 
I found this 2006 voting record of politicians who blocked foreign airlines being allowed to control U.S. Airlines. I was sad to see that only 42% of Republicans voted to block foreign control of U.S. Airlines but 96% of Democrats voted to block foreign control. Why are many politicians in favor of strong immigration laws but satisfied with foreign countries controlling our airlines and outsourcing our jobs?

Voting Record: http://www.unitedafa.org/assets/pop/print.aspx?id=4314

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
 
The new Delta contract has a provision for the company to oppose any foreign ownership. (Majority) That's better than the rest.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
Just in time to nullify any gains from age 65 kicking in fml.

The rest of the world is short on pilots too. Emirates is getting 120 A380s, plus a lot more 777-300s. China will need thousands per year. Those airlines will have better contracts than US airlines to lure expat pilots over there. Very doubtful it will happen.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
The rest of the world is short on pilots too. Emirates is getting 120 A380s, plus a lot more 777-300s. China will need thousands per year. Those airlines will have better contracts than US airlines to lure expat pilots over there. Very doubtful it will happen.


Bye Bye---General Lee

That's a lot of big airplanes for a country with a population less than the state of Virginia. It sounds like they have their eyes on long haul and high capacity traffic from other countries. Codes shares and/or acquisitions are in their future to provide the feed.
 
That's a lot of big airplanes for a country with a population less than the state of Virginia. It sounds like they have their eyes on long haul and high capacity traffic from other countries. Codes shares and/or acquisitions are in their future to provide the feed.

No, they are building a bigger airport in Dubai with larger terminals to handle them. They need slots and airport space at other airports, and rights to fly between countries. They don't really affect us much here in the US except traffic to Pakistan and India. Their connections in Dubai allow 1 stop to those countries. Other than that, it's too out of the way for US pax. Now Australia on the other hand, is a target. Their A380s from Sydney, Melbourne, etc can fly nonstop from Australia to Dubai, and then go nonstop to any European Capital that Emirates flies to. Qantas only flew to LHR and FRA via Bangkok and Singapore, meaning Australians had to fly two stops via LHR or FRA, and then connect to other European cities. One stop or two? Which do pax want? Of course one stop or nonstop, and you can't go nonstop from Australia to Europe. So, that is why Qantas decided to hook up with Emirates. They were going to lose out otherwise. But from the US, the big airports lack gates and space for a large scale ME carrier expansion. Unlikely. But Emirates can target other areas. Notice Canada only allows 3 weekly flights into Canada for Emirates and Qatari. Other countries will start restricting more flights if their own national carriers start to suffer. They may allow 1 daily flight, and the national carrier (like Lufthansa or Iberia) may also get a reciprocal flight to Dubai. As I stated before, Germany and France already have restrictions on the number of cities Emirates can fly to in their countries, regardless of codesharing.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
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