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Ford Motor Company

miaboeingcapt

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Anyone know anything about their flight department? Pay, schedule, benefits? Appreciate any info!
 

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Send me a private message with what you want to know, we go to do business with them on occasion and hang out at their hangar.... Looks like a pretty good place to be if you like DTW.......
 

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I've got a good friend of mine who flies for them out of PTK. They pay him a fair salary, don't fly him too much, and he has a lot of days off. Looks like a great corporate gig to me.
 

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What do you consider a fair salary? And a lot of days off, such as more than 15? Please elaborate if you can.
 

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I stand corrected, my buddy flies the Ford family in their Falcon 2000s, and it's a division of Pentastar in PTK. He's not based in DTW. At any rate, he makes close to 60k as SIC and knows about most of his trips about a month in advance. Not many pop up trips, and alot of months he gets more than 15 days off. Alot of times, he'll fly them somewhere and sit for three or four days too, waiting for them. I don't know if you'd consider a three or four day vacation as days off or not, but it's time away from home, so it's probably not considered time off.

As for the corporate dept. in DTW, can't help ya there. Sorry.
 

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SheGaveMeClap said:
Alot of times, he'll fly them somewhere and sit for three or four days too, waiting for them. I don't know if you'd consider a three or four day vacation as days off or not, but it's time away from home, so it's probably not considered time off.

Never use the "V" word when referring to a trip! If you are away from home it is NOT considered time off, no matter where you are!
 

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One of the web sites that i wound up in from a link ?? had a lot of info on them, check the avaition links ,

:D
 

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Ford is going through a period of reorganization - they are selling their Gulfstreams and buying pre-owned Falcons...

It was Edsel Ford that purchased PentaStar. It is a separate organization as is William Clay Ford, Jr's personal flight department which flys a Falcon.
 

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Seems like it was just a year or 2 ago that Ford sold 2 very low time Falcon 900EX's and bought G-V's... Back to the Falcons I guess...
 

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It's worse than that. They first sold their G-1159's and bought three 900's.

Next Gulfstream did a head-on-head G-IV vs. 900 comparison demonstration flight from Detroit to London and back where they loaded 8 Ford pax into the G-IV demonstrator and another 8 into one of Ford's 900's. The 900 took off first and got stuck in the tracks and weather going over to London. It was not a nice ride. The G-IV climbed above the tracks and weather and had already passed the Falcon prior to coasting out. On the way back, the G-IV went non-stop to Detroit and the Falcon crew elected to land at Bangor for fuel.

Ford immediately bought two G-IV's. They kept them a year before putting them on the block and ordering two new 900's.

Before the 900's could be delivered, Jacques Nasser, who replaced Sir Alex Trottman as CEO, asked for the guy's resignation who had sold the G-IV's and ordered the Falcons and then Jacques purchased five G-V's.

It is these G-V's that the new CEO, William Clay Ford, Jr, is replacing with used Falcons. The oldest of the GV's is now less than two years old.
 

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They had two Fokker 70's that they were using principaly for a UK shuttle. They liked the airplanes well enough, but have found support increasingly difficult to attain. I haven't been by to see them lately and they didn't attend the annual Gulfstream Workshop in Savannah last week so I don't know what their plans are for those airplanes.
 

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They use a Fokker 100 as a shuttle to SDF every week. Talked to one of their pilots one day and he confirmed they are having some internal difficulties.

The bennies are good though. I think the pilots all get company cars and great salaries. A friend over at NJI knew a pilot that left there for a Ford GV job at about $175K. Don't quote me on this part though, just passing it along. GVflyer has the inside info.
 

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Editorial correction? Fokker 70's I guess. The one with the BR710's on it.
 
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