For the CFII's....

[FlyinBrian]

Doing it at that stage of the approach on a check-ride seems kind of chicken-sh**!

I would agree with you IF the student had the volume properly adjusted. However, if the student flew the whole approach with the volume turned down, the examiner was probably going to fail him on it anyway, and just failed the equipment to demonstrate how important it is to keep the volume turned up.

 

[Acestick]

Always Identify & Leave it on as loud as you possibly can...

A U.S. Military transport plane was shot down over the Soviet Airspace ( Cold war, years ago ) because it crossed into the russian's airspace...It was tracking an NDB it thought was located in Turkey and was trying to fly around the Soviet ADIZ...But it didn't ident properly and ended up tracking a russian beacon right into the soviet airspace...


But all that aside, if the NDB is located on the field, then why would you waste your time worrying about timing?

Do the procedure turn and when your inbound, you descend to MDA - Missed approach isn't determined by time, but rather by STATION PASSAGE!!!!!

At least thats the way I always do it with a navaid on the field!!!

 

[supsup]

NDB's on the field

If your shooting the whole approach you have to atleast time the outbound leg. Thats the only way to assure yourself your within the 10 nm circle. 2 min. outbound when the NDB is on the field, 1 min. when the the NDB is off the field. Even with a 120kt GS traveling in a straight line for 3 min. only takes you 6nm from the station. Unless your using the FORCE (which is probably more accurate than the actual NDB approach), I don't see any other way of shooting the approach on "own navigation".

supsup

 

[tdvalve]

supsup:

Agreed. However, the debate was about a vectored approach.

 

[AAflyer]

Or if you are lucky, you can shoot an NDB approach and not have an ADF onboard. That is how are 737-800 pilots do it here at AA. Boy does it make it easy to shoot an NDBwhen you are following a magenta line.

AAflyer