Focus Air Second Officer

[iflysky]

Quick question. I noticed on their website, they posted mins for their second officer program. Is that a form of PFT deal or is it a ligit position with pay and benefits

Thanks

 

[kevdog]

Quick question. I noticed on their website, they posted mins for their second officer program. Is that a form of PFT deal or is it a ligit position with pay and benefits

Thanks

They were taking people from the CAPT program over at Riddle. Don't know if that program even exists anymore. With all the furloughs and layoffs going on in south florida about now I would think everyone will be sending in resumes to Focus. Between Polar and Tradewinds alone there are many current and qualified crews. Good luck!

 

[Flying Ninja]

Focus is still taking folks that gradaute out of CAPT. Cadets go into Focus and be a schlep for a year before they offer you into their Flight Engineer training. You do that for a year before they offer you the SIC training. It's the only leg that CAPT can stand on right now. The only other two airlines that even looks at CAPT are Pinnacle and ASA. ASA's minimum requirements are higher these days. I suspect they might have done that to not look at CAPT resumes anymore. CAPT is no longer under Riddle's banner. They're trying to sell their program and may have a buyer already. Announcements are supposed to be early this month.

As a side note, whoever they fall under next, just make sure you tell everyone interested in flight training to stay FAR AWAY from them. The management there won't lose any sleep hanging you out to dry like they did me. Very little help in post-graduation placement, despite what they try to sell you to get you to fork over an obscene amount of money to them. With the LOW time they graduate you with, if they don't like you, you're pretty f*cked. Without them pushing your resume along, all you are is pilot who paid WAY TOO MUCH money to a program that doesn't give a sh!t about you and a logbook of useless time in the eyes of the regionals.

 

[Whale Pilot]

Focus is still taking folks that gradaute out of CAPT. Cadets go into Focus and be a schlep for a year before they offer you into their Flight Engineer training. You do that for a year before they offer you the SIC training. It's the only leg that CAPT can stand on right now. The only other two airlines that even looks at CAPT are Pinnacle and ASA. ASA's minimum requirements are higher these days. I suspect they might have done that to not look at CAPT resumes anymore. CAPT is no longer under Riddle's banner. They're trying to sell their program and may have a buyer already. Announcements are supposed to be early this month.

As a side note, whoever they fall under next, just make sure you tell everyone interested in flight training to stay FAR AWAY from them. The management there won't lose any sleep hanging you out to dry like they did me. Very little help in post-graduation placement, despite what they try to sell you to get you to fork over an obscene amount of money to them. With the LOW time they graduate you with, if they don't like you, you're pretty f*cked. Without them pushing your resume along, all you are is pilot who paid WAY TOO MUCH money to a program that doesn't give a sh!t about you and a logbook of useless time in the eyes of the regionals.

Perhaps you might try the "Old Way" like most civ's and instruct or try your hand in the military. This is how most of the pilots I know built their time. Not trying to knock your ideas but .....

 

[Whale Rider]

Quick question. I noticed on their website, they posted mins for their second officer program. Is that a form of PFT deal or is it a ligit position with pay and benefits

Thanks

Unfortunately, not many things are ligit about the airline industry these days.

 

[Smash312]

Unfortunately, not many things are ligit about the airline industry these days.

They're not 'legit' at all. You're right.

 

[big_al]

Perhaps you might try the "Old Way" like most civ's and instruct or try your hand in the military. This is how most of the pilots I know built their time. Not trying to knock your ideas but .....

not everyone wants to spend 10 years in the military or instruct for pennies a day for a few years. and by the time you are done with all that, the industry could be in even worse shape

 

[Birddog]

not everyone wants to spend 10 years in the military or instruct for pennies a day for a few years. and by the time you are done with all that, the industry could be in even worse shape

RANT ON

I read quite a bit here about people who do not want to instruct, who do not think they are cut out for instructing, or who think it is a waste of time, and yet complain about how they cannot get enough hours.
I know very few people who WANT to instruct. I sure didn't WANT to. Those that do are few and far between and are truly a rare resource. The majority of former instructors I meet did it because they had to. No one gets rich doing it. You do it because it is necessary. You do the best you can to provide your students with the absolute best education you can give them because you are a professional. If you are not good with students, you find a way to become good with them because you must. This job is filled with things I don't want to do. I do them so I can do the things I DO want to.
If you are not willing to do the difficult things you must occasionally do, find some other field of work that doesn't require it.

There are never any guarantees about the state of the industry. Everyone finds thier own way of coping with the uncertainty.

RANT OFF

 

[PHXFLYR]

Hey Birddog;


I don't think that was a "rant" at all. What it was,though was an excellent post. The sooner one realizes there are no shortcuts around the nasty gritty work that needs to be done to move forward in a chosen career field the better off they will be. As the Nike ads say "Just Do It"

Really beginning to wonder about the work ethic out there ,,,,,


PHXFLYR

 

[McNugget]

Hey Birddog.......


Nice post!