Flow and logbook ?

[othello]

A large amount of the first Delta class AUG 3ed will be flowing pilots from Compass and Mesaba. (no interview needed) Do those pilots need to have upto date logbooks when they arrive for class?

 

[goahead]

They don't have to do anything else so I doubt it, the elite delta job has gone by the
wayside, wrong place lucky time.....

"Same company" totally different qual. for pilots of DAL than
ever before.......

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

"Same company" totally different qual. for pilots of DAL than ever before.......

Yeah, maybe some will have the "qual." of being a little less arrogant. . . :laugh:

I keed, I keed.

 

[othello]

Well if it make's you feel any better the guys at Mesaba that are up for the flow were hired in 1995 and born in the 60's. We are happy to donate some of our cranky old guys to the Delta mainline pilot group.

 

[easydoesit]

Yeah but those guys will bypass to more junior folk won't they?

 

[SpauldingSmails]

A large amount of the first Delta class AUG 3ed will be flowing pilots from Compass and Mesaba. (no interview needed) Do those pilots need to have upto date logbooks when they arrive for class?

I guess the question would be, what for? All flow-ups will already posses an ATP. I can't speak for the XJ language, but there are no specific hour requirements outlined in the CP language.

Delta may want to collect some hour information for their demographic purposes, in which case I'd highly doubt they'd have any cause for physically reviewing the pilot's logs.

 

[LJ45]

why wouldn't you keep a current logbook?

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

Same company" totally different qual. for pilots of DAL than ever before.......

They'll probably be "uppity" too?

 

[othello]

why wouldn't you keep a current logbook?

I fly with a lot more guys that have not touched their logbook in years than pilots that are upto date.
What is the point when you have been working at the same place for 10 plus years. Once you maxed out on the pay scale and vacation. Live in the city you are based it is easy to just not care how much time you have. We can always look at the company's www to see what we have done.

I try to catch up on mine every 3-4 month.

 

[wings421]

Have these pilots been notified that they will be in class Aug 3? I thought the first class was going to be mostly recall guys. Is Aug 3 the first class? Any recalls care to comment?

 

[say again]

They don't have to do anything else so I doubt it, the elite delta job has gone by the
wayside, wrong place lucky time.....

"Same company" totally different qual. for pilots of DAL than
ever before.......

Yeah, the old school Delta pilots are far superior to the ones recently hired!

 

[SplitBar]

Have these pilots been notified that they will be in class Aug 3? I thought the first class was going to be mostly recall guys. Is Aug 3 the first class? Any recalls care to comment?

An email from the XJ ALPA MEC said that the company has notified ALPA that they intend on holding back all 200 & 900 Captains. I have seen nothing official from the company other than the recent XJ memo regarding the upcoming flow ups. I think the maximum hold back time is 90 days. So it sounds like the XJ flow ups wont be in class until November or December with the exception of a few very senior Saab Captains. Only time will tell how it unfolds.

 

[othello]

Anyone have a feel for how many Compass pilots will not be able to flow because they do Not have a four year degree? I think that there are more at Mesaba than most people would guess.

I thought I remember something about other pilots from Mesaba would fill the class seat for those held back and once there hold was up they would then go to class with there old seniority date?

 

[SpauldingSmails]

Anyone have a feel for how many Compass pilots will not be able to flow because they do Not have a four year degree?

Zero. A 4-year degree is not a requirement per the Compass flow language.

 

[othello]

But it is Delta new hire requirement?
http://www.deltajobs.net/pilot_qualifications.htm

Your telling me there going to give you job your not qulaified for??

I dont think so.

 

[SpauldingSmails]

But it is Delta new hire requirement?
http://www.deltajobs.net/pilot_qualifications.htm

Your telling me there going to give you job your not qulaified for??

I dont think so.

No one will be doing any such thing. They have already qualified. That's the agreeement. Delta knows this.

They will flow. There's no further qualification required beyond those outlined in the CBA. As a result, Compass now requires a 4-year degree to be hired there. But those already on the property will flow to the mainline even without the degree.

There were NWA pilots without 4-year degrees as well.

 

[ahlmab]

But it is Delta new hire requirement?
http://www.deltajobs.net/pilot_qualifications.htm

Your telling me there going to give you job your not qulaified for??

I dont think so.

Let me guess...are you also one of the guys last year that said the flow would never happen?