Flops

[Ben Dover FLOPS]

This is for the Flt Opt guys.
Who would like a TA to vote on that would allow the company to pick and choose the innocents to come back from the 70 RIFs?
How about all of them only or none of them?
Who believes some of the 70 should never come back?
I've learned in the past to never say never.

You're dumb

 

[Ultra Grump]

Many Pilots have paid the price to get this Pilot Group to the point they are at today; many with their jobs.

And now a few Survivors, who can smell a big increase in compensation just around the corner, want to sell out the very Brothers who got them to this point by paying the ultimate price: Laying down their Jobs in the quest for a Fair Contract.

To leave even one of these Pilots behind, is an immoral act.

Of course, this kind of GREED attitude, of a Pilot simply thinking of himself and his own interest, is exactly the type of behavior Management hopes for.

It allows them to divide the group into individuals which they love to do, because as we have learned, individual Pilots acting alone have very little power.

It is only when we Stand as One that we can affect great change, just look at what the NetJets Pilots did.

And they did not leave a single Soldier on the Battle Field.

Freedom is Not Free (so to those of you without any, Grow Some Balls!)

Talked to an Options pilot the other day. He started talking about Ricci coming back, and that things should be changing for the better. I asked whether the 70 were coming back, and said that I hoped so. He said (and this is a quote), "I don't care. I've only got about 5 more years here, so it doesn't really matter." Nice attitude.

 

[cougar12]

Talked to an Options pilot the other day. He started talking about Ricci coming back, and that things should be changing for the better. I asked whether the 70 were coming back, and said that I hoped so. He said (and this is a quote), "I don't care. I've only got about 5 more years here, so it doesn't really matter." Nice attitude.

Yes, we have a few of these guys around. Hopefully, they join us. If they are any of the ones doing overtime while pilots have been fired they won't last five years after the contract gets voted in. It will just be too lonely for them on the road.

 

[SecondSegment]

Actually 2nd segment, most (not all) of the 70 were union supporters and senior as well.

Most is 51%.

You know the ones that I'm talking about.
The No Respecters.

The problem is that this could be a deal breaker. If the deal is going to be blown over this, It kills me to have the No Respectors tip the scale on a no deal scenaro.

My other problem was that the CANPASS guys sank with out a ripple. They got the ol' "Sorry Guys, There's nothing we can do". In fact, They were the testing of the water for the big one. Now it's a big deal. Now the Teamsters are pissed. WTF? And, Now we might piss away a deal over some lamers.

 

[Freedom]

Hey Mr. Me, Myself, and I guy...

Most is 51%.

You know the ones that I'm talking about.
The No Respecters.

The problem is that this could be a deal breaker. If the deal is going to be blown over this, It kills me to have the No Respectors tip the scale on a no deal scenaro.

My other problem was that the CANPASS guys sank with out a ripple. They got the ol' "Sorry Guys, There's nothing we can do". In fact, They were the testing of the water for the big one. Now it's a big deal. Now the Teamsters are pissed. WTF? And, Now we might piss away a deal over some lamers.

You're attitude of dividing the group is just what Management wants.

Over 80% of those let go in the RIF were Dues Paying Union Members, many being Committee Chairman/Members. In otherwords, much of the volunteer force that got you to the End Game we are in now.

And you want to flush them? Remind me to never turn my back on you. I might feel something Sharp and Cold.

Freedom is Not Free

 

[fracjack]

Immature flamers

i love how some of you self righteous people put a spin on a question and want to assume you know my personal position. I can also assume the person who says I'm dumb wasn't even pissin in his pants when I was tuning superhomers.
Here's my position as if it mattered.
Most of the 70 were innocent bystanders and collateral damage from mis-guided management. About 10% would have been fired from any corporate job for the antics they pulled, of that number 2 or 3 are a P.I.T.A. We are not fighting a war overseas here, this is becoming a civilwar being declared amongst ourselves fed by managements fud and we are the ones who can either stop it or allow it to continue. Any other analogy of leaving behind the wounded is bs.
Bring 'em back. we'll sort out the losers.

 

[Ben Dover FLOPS]

...I can also assume the person who says I'm dumb wasn't even pissin in his pants when I was tuning superhomers...

It doesn't matter if you are Orville or Wilbur, or Moses, for that matter, you're still dumb.

"Tuning superhomers??" Is that some sort of code for picking the underwear out of your butt or something??

You're dumb

 

[fracjack]

"Tuning superhomers??" Is that some sort of code for picking the underwear out of your butt or something??

You're dumb

And your screen names suggests where you must love to take it

 

[B19 Flyer]

B19 got a new screen name again?

IMAC, never once have I ever stated that these pilots shouldn't get their jobs back.

However...

When a union is on the property and it's nasty, this is standard issue and the entire pilot group should have known it could happen from the onset. Should have not been a surprise. These pilots are bargaining chips, I've said that since the beginning and I'm frankly surprised that there hasn't been more.

They got what they asked for...

 

[FRLWD]

This is for the Flt Opt guys.
Who would like a TA to vote on that would allow the company to pick and choose the innocents to come back from the 70 RIFs?
How about all of them only or none of them?
Who believes some of the 70 should never come back?
I've learned in the past to never say never.

So now we have you, Narrow Bridge and Second Segment all joining this board late in the game and being surreptitiously disruptive.
What's your agenda? Why are you against a Collective Bargaining Agreement?