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FR8DOG777

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The union at FLOPS can be compared to a tree. It started as a seed a little over a year ago. Today it is a juvenile tree, it has leaves and produces some shade. Eventually it will be in full bloom and bearing fruit for all to consume. Every once in a while someone comes by and takes a whack at this tree. They would rather cut it down instead of waiting for the fruit to come. This tree is stronger than most would think. It can withstand any storm of attacks thrown at it by those that don't welcome it in their yard.

There are some that claim that the union hasn't done anything for them. These words in my opinion come from selfish pilots that are not will to put in the effort to make FLOPS a better place. What the union has done for "Me" lately, has been more than I ever had before at FLOPS. First of all the union has negotiated representational rights for all pilots that find themselves heading to CGF for any possible disciplinary action. It wasn't too long ago pilots would be disciplined for not being a team player. Pilots would find themselves in jeopardy with FLOPS if they called off fatigue, wrote up planes in inconvenient places, or items that management didn't think needed to be addressed until the plane went in for maintenance, and also for not answering the phone for that 0300 wakeup call we all were getting. Another thing the union has done for "Me" is make my rest period exactly that, MY REST PERIOD. To me that is a big deal knowing that I am not on a short leash. Another thing that comes to mind that the union has done for me is democracy. I get to vote on the things that are important to me. We all have these things now that the union is here. These benefits and protections are for everyone, not just the union supporters but every FLOPS pilot.

If you don't like what you see the union doing, if you think you can do things better then become a member in good standing. Run for MEC. Get off the sidelines, sofa, or wherever you are and get involved. This union isn't going anywhere. If you don't like how things are being handled then step up to the plate and volunteer. There should be no reason why anyone that is a FLOPS pilot shouldn't be on at least one committee. It is only your career and livelihood at stake here.

Management thinks that they control this company, soon they will see that it is the pilots that make FLOPS, and have control. If you want a contract that is equivalent or better than your peers at the other fractionals then it will take effort by practically everyone. We are all in this together, we are all getting the same shaft. We all need to stand up shoulder to shoulder and let management know we mean business. I for one am ready to pick some of that fruit off the tree. I'm willing to bet even those that tried to cut the tree down will enjoy it too.

So what has the union done for you lately? You tell me. Ask that person you see in the mirror "What has the union done for me?" See what they tell you. If they say nothing, then it is your fault that management rapes us all.

GET INVOLVED IN YOUR UNION
 
and also for not answering the phone for that 0300 wakeup call we all were getting. Another thing the union has done for "Me" is make my rest period exactly that, MY REST PERIOD. To me that is a big deal knowing that I am not on a short leash


FLOPS now obeys the FARs?

Anyone else?
 
The union at FLOPS can be compared to a tree. It started as a seed a little over a year ago. Today it is a juvenile tree, it has leaves and produces some shade. Eventually it will be in full bloom and bearing fruit for all to consume. Every once in a while someone comes by and takes a whack at this tree. They would rather cut it down instead of waiting for the fruit to come. This tree is stronger than most would think. It can withstand any storm of attacks thrown at it by those that don't welcome it in their yard.

There are some that claim that the union hasn't done anything for them. These words in my opinion come from selfish pilots that are not will to put in the effort to make FLOPS a better place. What the union has done for "Me" lately, has been more than I ever had before at FLOPS. First of all the union has negotiated representational rights for all pilots that find themselves heading to CGF for any possible disciplinary action. It wasn't too long ago pilots would be disciplined for not being a team player. Pilots would find themselves in jeopardy with FLOPS if they called off fatigue, wrote up planes in inconvenient places, or items that management didn't think needed to be addressed until the plane went in for maintenance, and also for not answering the phone for that 0300 wakeup call we all were getting. Another thing the union has done for "Me" is make my rest period exactly that, MY REST PERIOD. To me that is a big deal knowing that I am not on a short leash. Another thing that comes to mind that the union has done for me is democracy. I get to vote on the things that are important to me. We all have these things now that the union is here. These benefits and protections are for everyone, not just the union supporters but every FLOPS pilot.

If you don't like what you see the union doing, if you think you can do things better then become a member in good standing. Run for MEC. Get off the sidelines, sofa, or wherever you are and get involved. This union isn't going anywhere. If you don't like how things are being handled then step up to the plate and volunteer. There should be no reason why anyone that is a FLOPS pilot shouldn't be on at least one committee. It is only your career and livelihood at stake here.

Management thinks that they control this company, soon they will see that it is the pilots that make FLOPS, and have control. If you want a contract that is equivalent or better than your peers at the other fractionals then it will take effort by practically everyone. We are all in this together, we are all getting the same shaft. We all need to stand up shoulder to shoulder and let management know we mean business. I for one am ready to pick some of that fruit off the tree. I'm willing to bet even those that tried to cut the tree down will enjoy it too.

So what has the union done for you lately? You tell me. Ask that person you see in the mirror "What has the union done for me?" See what they tell you. If they say nothing, then it is your fault that management rapes us all.

GET INVOLVED IN YOUR UNION

Great post FD777. Someone on another thread was suggesting that the union hasn't done enough. I suppose if someone is the type that sits on their hands and waits for good things to fall in their lap, they might think that way. As for me, the dues I'm paying have already been returned in value. I love waking up to my own alarm clock, instead of a ringing phone.
 
Topic for another thread.

FLOPS now obeys the FARs?

Anyone else?

Wonder if the CS cheerleaders will care to chime in on this one. I am sure they are still taking calls in their off time in order to upgrade or transition. FracTrash? Care to comment???
 
FOZZY: Please do your homework before you make comments like that. I've been here for several years and I can count on one hand how many times I've been kept out against my wishes because we ended somewhere they couldn't get us home. Not once have I or anyone here been called on days off to rush into work.

I honestly hope FLOPS guys and girls like your self get a fair shake. I have friends over there and only wish you the best. The next time you wish to bash me and my company, you better do a little homework, so you don't sound so foolish.
 
Wonder if the CS cheerleaders... I am sure they are still taking calls in their off time in order to upgrade or transition.

Fozzy, you have to be mental. Our GREAT company NEVER called me on a day off. Get your facts straight before you post such ignorant nonesense, Kid.
 
Maybe I should have made the question a little more clear. Do you go to training on your days off??? Company recurrent or sim.
Are you expected to answer the phone in the hotel after 10 hours off even if they told you that you have 10+X hours off?


Sorry I was not so clear with the other post. Just looking for answers from the best paid frac pilots out there.
 
FOZZY: If training falls on our days off, they adjust your next tour to give those days you lost back. When we are released to the hotel, we do not have to answer our phone for 10 hours and if they call you the clock starts over. When they say the magic words,"you're released." They then give the time 10 hours later, when you would be available to work.
 
FOZZY: If training falls on our days off, they adjust your next tour to give those days you lost back. When we are released to the hotel, we do not have to answer our phone for 10 hours and if they call you the clock starts over. When they say the magic words,"you're released." They then give the time 10 hours later, when you would be available to work.

Wait once they realse you and ur semt to the hotel they can call you in ten hours? Ok that makes sense and sounds fair. My question ( and it's just an honest querstion ) Does your duty start right then and there after 10 hours of rest? It seemsto me if your required to awnser the phone you should be consider on duty thus counting against your 14 hour max duty day. Im still not sure how Flex gets away with one. Their POI must live on a big lake with a grage full of wave runners
 

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