FLOPS pilots file for mediation

[Dingo221]

The masks in the Beechjet and the 800 XPs do not have this automatic system if over 10.000 feet cabin pressure.

 

[glasspilot]

Okay fine, guess I'm the goofball for NOT going on flightaware looking for people above 350 too long.

I'll start spending my days trying to do the FAA's job and scour the universe for FAR violators.

Can't believe I'm the only person who thinks it's crazy to log onto flightaware for the purpose of finding aircraft above FL350 for longer than their O2 supply should allow. What's next? Calling all the FBO at destination and demanding to know if the O2 was serviced? Perhaps you could then self disclose to the FAA so a formal investigation could be launched and the pilots tickets yanked as a result.

Yeah, I'm the crazy one here

 

[realityman]

Sounds a little crazy to me too. I can't speak for other fleets, but in the X, the mask is a diluter demand type.
So we can select the 'Normal" position that uses a mix of cabin air and O2 based on the cabin altitude.

With the mask in "Normal" I can fly around for a very long time (longer than the aircraft could actually stay in the air) without totally exhausting the O2 tank. It still uses O2, so the tank would need to be serviced periodically, but actually run out of O2? Not likely.

That's what makes it such a nice way to fly legally. The tank will need serviced wherever (maybe slowing ops down a bit hint hint) but you'll have plenty of O2 to be legal and SAFE.

 

[netjetwife]

Thanks for posting the MEC report Silver. I read every word with interest. Quote: "You can readily see the dramatic degree to which Flight Options pilots’ pay lags behind that of our peers at other fractional carriers, not only because we are paid less per workday, but because we also work more days per year than most other fractional pilots and often “slide to poverty” when changing aircraft or status. The daily rate charts for the Mid and Large Cabin Fleets, which are not shown, portray similarly dismal results".

That's why I describe the Options pilots as overworked/underpaid... There's no excuse for it! That huge discrepancy is proof that their management not only approves of exploitation, but is making it part of their operations plan. NO Options pilot should condone such behavior. By dragging their feet at the bargaining table management is showing their lack of respect and regard for the pilots and their families. That fact alone should make every Options pilot pledge his support to his Union/fellow pilots.

Ignore the red herrings and keep your eye on the goal of an industry standard contract. When they see that their FUD isn't working, they'll stop trying to reproduce their present exploitative policies and get serious about hammering out a real contract. When they figure out that crumbs aren't getting them the full cooperation they need, they will offer professional wages. Show them the error of their ways!

A few words of encouragement....

http://www.bluemountain.com/view.pd?i=190794570&m=1932&rr=y&source=bma999



OPTIONS PILOTS HOLD THE HIGH GROUND. MANAGEMENT'S DELAY TACTICS DESERVE THE BOOT!

A RISING TIDE LIFTS ALL BOATS, BUT PADDLING IS REQUIRED. COMBINED EFFORTS WORK BEST.

 

[glasspilot]

Nice post Wife. Stay unified FLOPS!

 

[netjetwife]

Thanks, Glass! Here's to unity...:beer:
It truly does make a difference and you only have to look at the once-apathetic now strongly unified NJA pilots to see just how much. BTW, that unity doesn't begin and end with their own pilot group. It extends to working as a partner with NJA and sharing advice and encouragement to other pilot groups in the industry. I have no doubt that given the right atmosphere the Options pilots would partner with their managers, as well. The FLOPS are making a big mistake by not harnessing the good will and talent of their pilots. It's time for them to bring respect and professional wages to the bargaining table. It may be common practice to try to buy frac pilots off cheap... but that doesn't make it right! Smart management teams pay the going rate and motivate their work force.

Hang in there!
NJW