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None of you ever answered my question.
When the company goes under, what will you have to show for it?

An industry standard worth working for...you know, the months of your life in small metal tubes and hotel rooms.

Plus, only the Wall Street Journal Editorial page believes that pilot wages, not decades of mismanagement have ever caused an aviation organization to fail. Mike Sheeringa might have the distinction of causing three different outfits to fail, AmericaWest, Airways, and FLOPS. But its the pilot's fault. Right.

STFD. STFD. STFD.
 
Oh leave Random alone. He is just happy to be flying for a living. Would probably do it for (crew) food.

Anyways, the burn it down way of thinking is the only thing that got us a contract. But the rub is that you must mean it. If you are not serious about the very real posibility that your company may go under, you have already lost. We were dead serious.
 
RF, I did answer your question along the same lines as the others. The pilots will have self-respect and the admiration/gratitude of their peers in and outside of the frac industry. Just because it wasn't the answering you were looking for doesn't mean that it wasn't addressed.

If a company is so badly managed that it must rely on a large group of its employees to subsidize it, then obviously it is not fit to survive. Are you expecting Flt Ops to be allowed to pay less than the going rate for fuel, as well? Pilot salaries are a cost of doing business. Companies that can't afford to stay in business either fold or correct their mistakes. If Options can't make it on their own without the pilots carrying them then it's better for all concerned that the situation is revealed for what it is and Darwin's Theory runs its course. By making the company stop balancing the budget on the backs of the pilots they are forcing them to become a more efficient and responsible employer. That is in the best interest (long-term) of everyone involved. "Burn it down" is just a shortcut way of saying this. It's the pilots' way of telling the company to stand on their own and stop using the pilots as a crutch. NJW
 
Fozzy and Netjetwife. Good replies.

Many years ago, I used a maintenance facility in Shreveport, LA. The manager was a man named George Watson. I know a lot of pilots might remember him. He had a large sign in his office that said:

GETTING PAID IS PART OF DOING BUSINESS AND WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT DOING BUSINESS.

I don't recall that anyone was ever offended. They certainly didn't take their business elsewhere. FLOPS and some of the "me generation pilots" could learn a lesson from people like him.
 
Thanks, TH...:) I like that sign. It sounds like good advice to me.
 
Survival Of The Fittest

None of you ever answered my question.
When the company goes under, what will you have to show for it?


Like in nature, business is also survival of the fittest. There are many facets that comprise a fit company. One of them is employees that are happy with their company, feel that they are valued by the company, and that their work is appreciated by the company.

None of these sentiments are espoused by the vast majority of Flight Options Employees. The pilots started to express their dissatisfaction with Options management by voting for representation. Dissatisfaction with management is wide spread now and permeates the entire company. A Dispatcher told me following the huge pay cut we all took via our benefits cost increases, that there was not a person working in OCC that wasn't looking for another job. I would not be at all surprised to see the OCC and MX personnel start a union organization drive very soon. Without the whole hearted support and of it's employees Options will not survive.

Maybe this is what it will take for mother RTN to wake up and see what a moron they installed as CEO. RTN recognizing what Schreeinga has done to this company and the death spiral that he has put it in, is what needs to happen.
 
I agree! Walking beside your fellow pilots is surely more comfortable than being dragged into the brighter future the group has earned/deserves.
 
None of you ever answered my question.
When the company goes under, what will you have to show for it?

Look RF, I hope management at FLOPS gets their money back that they spent on your pitiful posting attempt. If you’re going to be a management mole, at least be good at it. I’m not sure if you’re a member of management, a consultant, an intern…it doesn’t really matter because your posts are completely transparent. The old saying goes ‘if something is worth doing, its worth doing well’ applies here. So on Monday morning when you stroll into the office, pour that cup of coffee, and log on to FI you should really give it your all. We all know you can do better, I mean come on…people pegged you in your first thread for Gods sake! I’m serious when I say that your efforts are not even worth entertainment value. It really is disappointing. Sigh…perhaps you’re not management material after all. :laugh:
 

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