Flops cx

[skanza]

I believe this discussion is over slowtation capt. It doesn't look like there's an issue with this flight.
Goodnight

 

[ozpilot]

The CX can be flown with a cracked B screen to a maint base per the AFM.

True. Its a maintenance item that is in the limitations section. Never figured out why its there. Maintenance in the X is like any other jet aircraft. If something is broken, the plane is grounded unless the it can be deferred by the MEL or some other FAA approved procedure. Why does a maintenance item need to be in the limitations of the AFM?!

FWIW the limitation only applies to the outer layer. Does the flight crew make that call?

 

[SilverSurfer]

Might want to get the facts before you start flaming someone. The CX can be flown with a cracked B screen to a maint base per the AFM.

No pax were on board. There are some real a$$holes on here.

Your information is accurate, thank you for posting factual information rather then conjecture. I heard that the jet was moved to PBI without documentation of a 501 or a ferry permit. I know a 501 is required , is a ferry permit required or can the jet be operated a some altitude with out one?

 

[TheBigMan]

Including You!

Might want to get the facts before you start flaming someone. The CX can be flown with a cracked B screen to a maint base per the AFM.

No pax were on board. There are some real a$$holes on here.

A$$HOLES?

Yes, there were pax on board.

Yes, I do have first hand knowledge.

 

[chainring]

A$$HOLES?

Yes, there were pax on board.

Yes, I do have first hand knowledge.

Well you really are a stupid A$$hole BigMan.

There were NO pax on either leg in or out of Povo. Not sure where your firsthand knowledge is but it sucks.

I know and have talked with one of the crew and confirmed NO PAX.

 

[TheBigMan]

Speak For Yourself, A$$hole,

Well you really are a stupid A$$hole BigMan.

There were NO pax on either leg in or out of Povo. Not sure where your firsthand knowledge is but it sucks.

I know and have talked with one of the crew and confirmed NO PAX.

Why is an ASAP in progress?????

Yours sucks even harder.

 

[chainring]

I believe their asaping Kellermeryer

 

[chainring]

You can run your mouth all you want but before you slam someone for something you really should make sure you have all the facts. Which you did not.

I just love all the comments about "experimental passengers" or "you cant fly with a cracked B screen" or another saying they were at FL350 with pax on board according to flightaware. Wow, didnt know flightaware told you which legs had pax on board and which ones were empty.

Ive never seen more people sitting around trying to find dirt on someone else as with people on this board.

How about backing a couple of fellow aviators, employees, union brothers and not make accusations that you really cant back up with anything more than " I heard"

They were EMPTY and diverted after the window cracked. MK was out of line and giving them a hard time for not diverting to PBI. That is why the asap was filed. The AFM was consulted, TEAM X was consulted, and maint was consulted and the window inspected to confirm it was the outer pane and not the inner and then the plane was moved to PBI EMPTY

Im so done with this.

 

[chief9404]

Might want to get the facts before you start flaming someone. The CX can be flown with a cracked B screen to a maint base per the AFM.

No pax were on board. There are some real a$$holes on here.

If it was not properly documented on a mtx log and/or signed off by a mech for a ferry permit there may be a few less Flops pilots/mgt in the near future. With all the unhappy former and current flops employees i'm sure the FAA will hear about this.

 

[skanza]

A$$HOLES?

Yes, there were pax on board.

Yes, I do have first hand knowledge.

You must not, as it is incorrect.

 

[nerdpilot]

Did the mx who signed off on the screen and ferry permit participate in a drug and alchohol testing program???? Not all do out of the country and this is a requirement per company procedures i believe.

 

[clydefastly]

Did the mx who signed off on the screen and ferry permit participate in a drug and alchohol testing program???? Not all do out of the country and this is a requirement per company procedures i believe.

Most company manuals state that someone not covered under a drug and alcohol testing program can coduct mx as long as the work completed is inspectded as soon as possible by a company approved mechanic, or someone that is covered under a drug and alcohol testing program (in this case a cessna service center). I don't work at FLOPS so this may not be approved by your company, but most do. Can a FLOPS pilot confirm?

 

[TheBigMan]

Hee Hee Hee Hee

Most company manuals state that someone not covered under a drug and alcohol testing program can coduct mx as long as the work completed is inspectded as soon as possible by a company approved mechanic, or someone that is covered under a drug and alcohol testing program (in this case a cessna service center). I don't work at FLOPS so this may not be approved by your company, but most do. Can a FLOPS pilot confirm?

Perhaps it the same manager that is responsible for the termination of a hawker crew, Harrison & Reed, SOP, trim out of range, this smell of alcohol abuse.

 

[o2bflyn]

No pax were on board. There are some real a$$holes on here.

You just realising that now? Sometimes this place is worse than watching CNN, Foxnews, MSNBC all at once.

 

[clydefastly]

Perhaps it the same manager that is responsible for the termination of a hawker crew, Harrison & Reed, SOP, trim out of range, this smell of alcohol abuse.

sorry, I'm not following you