Flight School Uniforms on Airliners.

[sqwkvfr]

Sweet Baby Jeeeeeezzzuuuuss, Skwkvfr, are you really this big a crybaby????

Apparently you work at a flight school that has the instructors and students, it seems, wearing uniforms. As patetic as that is, everyone has to have a job, so I don't hold that against you. But I think that anyone who has attained the maturity of a 15 year-old agrees that wearing said uniform on an airliner, outside of the classroom is at least 2 orders of magnitude more pathetic. Whether the individuals are instructors or students is immaterial, it's pathetic. Really, really pathetic. So, your feelings are hurt, because someone commented on how pathetic it was. Big deal. grow up, move on, get a job where you're not so ashamed of the silly uniforms that you have to explode into a defensive hissy fit when somone comments on your colleague/students' sad behavior.

You realize that by throwing this little tantrum, you've made yourself appear at least as pathetic as your uniform wearing friends, don't you?

Uh, no...you're completely wrong.

My feeling aren't hurt....I'm simply correcting a lie....a lie that was presented in a condescending manner.

I thought it ironic that a person who claimed to be so aware of what should and shouldn't be was completely wrong, and brought it to his attention.

I like how you claim that whether these people were students or CFIs was irrelevant. I couldn't disagree more. This thread was started for the sole purpose of bagging on Oxford CFIs....many of which happen to have experience twice beyond even your's....no where in the original post does it mention the possibility that these folks were students.

These folks that DX Rick noticed were students fresh out of the UK and are quite unaware of the opinions of a few jaded, salty holier-than-thou types that happen to post messages on some board that they've never heard of.

..and reference your opinion of me...based on the completely inaccurate conclusions that you've seem to have arrived at based on your own prejudices and limited knowledge about anything that is me or us leads me to the conclusion that I simply don't care.

 

[capt. megadeth]

I'd say that you owe every single Oxford Airline Training Center instructor (most of whom have more dual given than your total time and many with TEN TIMEs that much) an apology.

Oh geez....the drama!

 

[capt. megadeth]

We do business at your FBO. Should I pass your comments on to the managing director to see if he wants to instead use SW and perhaps let your boss know why?

Oh Gawd! What are we a rat now? That is Golden Rule #1.....you never call your boss on a fellow pilot especially with something like this. Grow up!

Hey sqwkvfr.....when it comes down to it....1000 hours....2000 hours.....it's all the same. I love the "they have twice the experience you do"....oh boy. I am sorry to make fun of you but you set yourself up for it. Teeee heeeee

 

[DX Rick]

I like how you claim that whether these people were students or CFIs was irrelevant. I couldn't disagree more. This thread was started for the sole purpose of bagging on Oxford CFIs....many of which happen to have experience twice beyond even your's....no where in the original post does it mention the possibility that these folks were students.
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Why are they sticking around Oxford for so long? Why not make the next step or are the career CFI's?

 

[sqwkvfr]

Why are they sticking around Oxford for so long? Why not make the next step or are the career CFI's?

Many of them are retired RAF or CAA airline pilots with over 30 years of experience. Others tried the regionals or 135 and came back.

The job is actually great. It's salaried and you get paid the same no matter how much you fly or whether your lesson goes forth as planned.

...and starting pay is quite a bit better than FO gigs at regionals...therefore guys with families and commitments find it hard to move to something that's gonna set them back financially and/or force a relocation.

 

[Singlecoil]

Then if is uniform said Oxford on it he is a student pilot? If a student pilot wore a uniform on an airliner to get liquids past security, then the TSA should be called and read the riot act. Either they missed the fact that he didn't have airline ID or they should have been very suspicious and made him change clothes.

 

[The_Russian]

Yeah, sounds like a possible breach in security to me.

 

[WabiSabi]

Regardless, I'm dying to know how it was anyone but your own fault for posting undeserved disparaging comments about Oxford Airline Training Center instructors?

You're being a hothead with a short fuse. Read the original post again. There are disparaging (but, well deserved) comments about a couple of dorks that were identified as instructors from Oxford. Perhaps their apparent positition as Oxford CFI's was pointed out in hopes that these dorks would see them and learn a lesson. However, there are NO disparaging comments about Oxford Airline Training Center instructors. :smash:

I like how you claim that whether these people were students or CFIs was irrelevant. I couldn't disagree more. This thread was started for the sole purpose of bagging on Oxford CFIs....many of which happen to have experience twice beyond even your's....no where in the original post does it mention the possibility that these folks were students.

Well no, this thread was obviously NOT started to bag Oxford CFI's. A bit paranoid aren't we?

Next time you should wait until your emotions subside before making such delusional posts

 

[SSDD]

VFR,

You had me in the begining, the original poster was wrong, and you pointed it out.

Then you've gone into this two page tyrade about getting people fired, changing FBO's, flight experience and dual given...and you lost me.

Give it up before the hole gets any bigger...

 

[TheGuat]

You were obviously mistaken and since you decided that the prudent action to take after your so-called observations was to come to a public message board and shoot your mouth off about it, I'd say that you owe every single Oxford Airline Training Center instructor (most of whom have more dual given than your total time and many with TEN TIMEs that much) an apology.

TOOL!!!

 

[Flysher]

Yeah, sounds like a possible breach in security to me.

:laugh:

 

[Emilfly]

...and starting pay is quite a bit better than FO gigs at regionals...[/quote]

that describes almost every job out there.

 

[flyboyzz1]

sqwkvfr.... you funny... dork.

 

[gkrangers]

I haven't read or posted here in a few months I think...after reading this thread I know why.

 

[dseagrav]

Ah, this brings back memories!

Back when we were in the internet provider business (and I was much younger and much, much stupider) we had a particular customer who liked to call us whenever he got drunk, which was about every two weeks - it must have been when he got paid. Anyway, he would call the help line completely wasted and ask us things like "where are my car keys?" and "Can you come and give me a ride?"

He had a web page. Every customer got some small amount of web space. We swear he edited the page while drunk too, because it was HIDEOUS. Most of it was flashing text talking about how well endowed he was and how he had to fight the women off with it, wielding it like a club. It had some dumb song playing in the background as a MIDI file, and changed colors like a bad LSD trip, and varied font sizes inside of words. It was BAD.

One day, I happened across his little corner of the internet while doing something or another and was so stunned by this display I decided to go and share it with my favorite USENET newsgroup, the Scary Devil Monastery. It's a public-read secret-write newsgroup for system administrators - Anyone can read it, but to post it you have to Wave a Chicken, the term used to describe forging parts of the posted message. I wrote up a short post, giving the address of the web page and a very unflattering opinion of it and its creator. It generated about 4 pages of responses, all of which were similarly unflattering. They ranged from "That's simply awful!" to "They let this man drive a car?" (Well, they did until this third DUI, but that was to come a few months later...) We all had a good laugh.

What I didn't know was that in addition to being a drunk, the customer in question was a net.kook - He liked to search for his own name in web search engines. At the time there was a new search engine for USENET, Dejanews. I figured that as long as I didn't mention his real name in the message, I was safe, right? WRONG, he searches for his username (part of the web address) too!

He printed my post and the responses and called my boss. He was not pleased. I was forced to apologise in person (he was drunk for the apology and didn't remember it the next day, so I was made to deliver it twice), post a retraction and public apology in SDR (which led to much public ridicule; I left the group in shame), and nearly lost my job. I had to forfeit two weeks of pay and we had to give him two months of free service. It was humbling to remember that even as the senior network administrator, you are worth less to the company than any drunk who can stumble through the door with $10.

As an epilogue, two weeks later the guy called the helpline, completely wasted. He couldn't remember where he was. It was outside some bar. We gave him his caller-ID and wished him good luck, then hung up on him. He had completely forgotten about the incident. (My boss hung it over my head for another year or so, until the internet provider went out of business.) Nine months after the incident the guy was arrested for driving drunk on a revoked license and sent to jail. We closed his account for nonpayment and never heard from him again.

Lesson learned: When flaming customers, post anonymously and through a proxy! (^_^)

 

[smellthejeta]

Speaking of booze, why would anybody want to wear a uniform on an airliner? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the flight attendants will NOT serve booze to uniformed aviation personnel.

 

[2dumb2drive]

you are all retarded and now i am for the time i wasted reading this stupid thread.

 

[FADECtoBLACK]

I've had fun reading it...

Three bars?! I wish they'd let us wear more than a bar or two in the Air Force...

Can't wait to come back in 10 years and fight over who's company sucks worse!

 

[Metro752]

geeze, one week in gainesville and i miss all the funs