Flight Options vs. Executive Jet

[EJA Capt]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Raytheon is required to sell the Horizon to EJA before it goes to RTA?!? I think I heard the same about 800xp's as well.
- beytzim

I'm not sure about a deal with the 800XP, but there was one between RAC and EJA. Something about after the initial deliveries to RTA, control of deliveries would revert to EJA. I have been trying to find details of this "agreement" online with no luck.

RTA did defer a dozen or so 800XPs a few months ago, and those aircraft did go to EJA. From what I understand, the FLOP/RTA deal for 115 aircraft DID NOT include the Horizon. RTA's orders were canceled.

I have read that K. Ricci intends to place an order for them, but the latest word from ICT, is that any orders placed today would not be delivered until after 2006.

 

[niteflyr]

Cost of Bennies

Not a huge issue in the middle of all the compensation discussion here but a new tidbit about the bennies at EJA. New hires at EJA are given the option of a company paid insurance plan now, separate from the union. That is all covered by the company, no deductions from the check. But then you are still obligated to pay the union even though you are not being insured through their plan, so you really aren't saving any $$ amount, but it is nice to see a company picking up the whole cost.

 

[tjsatter]

Now I'm confused. What do you mean company versus union insurance? What "option"? Why one versus teh other? Union dues are due regardless, I guess.

Many I've talked to are as impressed that I'll be a member of the Teamsters as anything else. I'm not sure why, I'm not. Are they that good a union? I was a steelworker before doing 20 years in management. Been on both sides of union/company

tj

 

[patch]

EJA vs EJM

This is my first visit and I have obviously encountered some very
active and verbal pilots with a great deal of passion.

So....with that in mind......in an amicable atmosphere....what are the main differences between EJA and EJM.

To further promote friendship.....I work for one of the companies
but am unclear about the other. Here is what I know :

1: We have the same owners
2. EJA - Union /EJM - Not
3. Pay relativly the same
4. All trained by FSI
5. EJA - Gateway/ EJM- live where you want
6. Schedules similar
7. Medical similar

What else??