Flight Options Pilots!

[XPGuy]

Be careful, unions are nothing more that smoke and mirrors. Alot of blowhards.

Yeah, that's what they are. By the way. That would make you an MEC chairman, would it, Captain Blowhard?

 

[Beatrix Kiddo]

Be careful, unions are nothing more that smoke and mirrors. Alot of blowhards.

Smoke and mirrors...blowhards...eh?

I for one am ready to see the unions bag of tricks. God knows Ive seen enough of FLOP's management saying over and over they are gonna pull a rabbit out of a hat and listening to their gas the last few years. :angryfire

 

[netjetwife]

Oh please--get real!

75% were forgeries? What a ridiculous claim! There is no way that a group who has to establish themselves by word of mouth and hard work would do something as stupid as forge signatures, ruining not only their reputation, but also their chances, before they even get off the ground. They'd come this far to risk it all when they had enough signatures already?! Hardly! Your stupid suggestion, SC, fits the FUD profile to a "T"...or a "D"..rather. And the election will be "rigged", right? All those pilots were just a handful of malcontents good at forging signatures? I think you need a reality check instead of a safety check!

 

[Spackler]

Late word is that over 75% of the signatures were forgeries

You misjudge the intelligence of ALL pilots with that statement!

Please remind your union busting friends that we are not stupid. You and your friends at Ford and Harrison are up against a coalition of pilots unlike any group they have tried to intimidate before.


http://www.ibt1108.org

 

[Spackler]

By the way,

For those that dont know who Ford & Harrison are, they are the union busting law firm that are now running Flight Options.

check em out:
http://www.fordharrison.com/fh/home.asp

 

[loverobot]

From the F&H website http://www.fordharrison.com/fh/practice/labor.asp

Well, get it straight from the horses mouth, this is what they do.

For Union-Free Employers we:

• develop effective, lawful strategies to prevent unions from organizing, including advice on handling pre-union activities.
• advise on proper handling of concerted activities, and NLRB and the National Mediation Board (NMB) representation proceedings.

 

[XPGuy]

75% were forgeries? What a ridiculous claim! There is no way that a group who has to establish themselves by word of mouth and hard work would do something as stupid as forge signatures, ruining not only their reputation, but also their chances, before they even get off the ground. They'd come this far to risk it all when they had enough signatures already?! Hardly! Your stupid suggestion, SC, fits the FUD profile to a "T"...or a "D"..rather. And the election will be "rigged", right? All those pilots were just a handful of malcontents good at forging signatures? I think you need a reality check instead of a safety check!

It is ludicrous. The signatures must be compared to the signatures provided by the company from official record to the NMB. Don't let the flames bait you. Statements like those just prove their credibility.

 

[netjetwife]

Don't you mean (dis) prove their credibility? Don't worry about me, XP, I long ago started wearing
a fire-proof suit to withstand the flames and boots to wade through the BS when I come to this board.

I know what's going on. My posts are intended to help those that are less aware of the real situation. NJW

 

[Schmeddley]

Getting a union at Flight Options would be a huge mistake. I know for a fact that good things will come if we can shoot this thing down. Pay is gonna get better, tier 3 guys are soon to get relief. If you vote this thing in, your gonna pay due's for something that is gonna takes years bear fruit. Vote this thing down and results will be immediate.

For those that say a union will stop the company from taking more away from you, call a Delta pilot and ask how he likes his 65% pay reduction. There isn't a union in the world that is gonna get you money that the company doesnt have. All a union does is take money from the pilots and divides us from managment. Give Bob Tyler a chance, he is good people and is gonna help us.

 

[Fozzy]

Duck

FUD!!

 

[Schmeddley]

Did the truth hurt you?

 

[ProFracPilot]

Welcome to the party, Schmeddley. We've been wondering where you've been.

Regardless of whether or not Mr. Tyler is a good person, he has no real authority - even at the VP level. The "improved communication", the (alleged) QOL and (alleged) compensation improvements are about 90 days too late. They're now unable to stop an affirmative vote.

 

[Fozzy]

Does your firm get time and a half for working Saturdays?
No sorry pal, I have seen those empty promises. Your truth has nothing to do with fact, but just squeezing every last penny out of your pilots.

In about 90 days it will be to late for this arguement.

Hey isn't this Bob guy an Eastern Scab? How could you trust an such a person to do what is right for a pilot group?
Does that truth hurt!?!

 

[Schmeddley]

There is no question his arrival to Flight Options was 90 days too late. It is unfortunate that many are not willing to give him a chance. What harm would it do to shoot this thing down, and give him a chance to produce a package that we can all live with? And if he doesnt come thru, then petition another vote. Just seems like "Ready, Fire, Aim" to me.

Several posts have encourage us non-union types to visit the IBT site and become more informed. I will do that provided the pro-union pilots call Bob Tyler and learn what he is all about.

I am not attacking anyone who is pro-union so please extend me the same professionalism.

 

[Fozzy]

What he is all about!?! Now that is funny.

Okay I will extend you the professionalism.

I don't have a dog in this fight, just thought I would add some of the "been there done that". You trust this guy, see where that gets ya. Ask him about his job at Eastern when you have him on the phone.

Keep in mind, they can offer you this package at any time. Nothing stopping them, they announced it before the petition. SO if they mean to help and not use it to stop a union drive, here is their opertunity. And hell if it is that good, the drive will fail. Right?

Good luck with the "give him a chance" thing, but if it is not in writting.....

My bet says you get nothing. Sorry it sucks.