Flight Options Pilots!

[dime line]

Yes but I've noticed Schmeddley hasn't posted on the FLOPS board, think he is from the Miami Law firm

 

[XPGuy]

Bring 'em on... We'll eat their lunch... and I'm hungry.


It's time to KICK ASS and CHEW BUBBLE GUM... and I'm all out of gum.

 

[Schmeddley]

I have on occation posted on our internal site. I am not from any law firm. Just a line pilot that is not interested in a union. I assure you however, if this thing happens to pass, I will pay my dues and be a good little boy. But I will try my best to get 51% to see my point of view.

 

[XPGuy]

Good luck feeding people kool-aid, schmedley. Why don't you read those reasons I gave on what could we lose if "we shoot this thing down", and try to rebut them to me. I'd really like to hear how you think our pilots are better off not having a union. Don't just say it, prove it.

 

[greygoose]

I have on occation posted on our internal site. I am not from any law firm. Just a line pilot that is not interested in a union. I assure you however, if this thing happens to pass, I will pay my dues and be a good little boy. But I will try my best to get 51% to see my point of view.

Why don't you go post your views on the 1108 site, everyone has a screenname and is unknown on the board. I highly believe you will find more FLOPS pilots on that site that you could try to convince then you can here.

 

[netjetwife]

Schmmeddley, what they see is you still circling the flag pole. How many trips around will it take? Check the wind sock. A Strong (Union ) wind is headed your direction.

 

[FracCapt]

Getting a union at Flight Options would be a huge mistake. I know for a fact that good things will come if we can shoot this thing down.

PM me your phone number and name and we can talk about this. I can also verify whether or not you are a legitimate pilot for Flight Options. If you don't, I'll take it as an admission that you are a company lemming and/or member of the Union busting firm.

 

[Hawkered]

Scmeddley

You have probably just broken the law!

You cannot make such a claim unless you are part of management, and if you are part of management you are not complying with the provisions of the National Labor Relations Act.

The IBT can ask the National Labor Relations Board to subpoena these boards for ISP addresses to verify your identity and intentions. If they are found to be illegal, you could be indicted.

 

[XPGuy]

Yeah, actually, that's a very good point. If he "knows for a fact", then he violates the laboratory conditions.

 

[ce750drvr]

If you vote this thing in, your gonna pay due's....

Oh GOD!!!! The dreaded 1.5% union dues. How will we live? Your dues will probably get you a bigger raise than without. Even paying your dues you will most likely be making more.

By the way, you're an idiot.

 

[Joe Jet Pilot]

Hey Schmmeddley!!!!!!!!!

Thank you so much for your post!!!!!!!

Your BS alone has made up my mind that I will vote for the 1108!!!!!!!!!!

 

[RVATOR]

Not that Im a flops pilot (maint guy here) but I thought I saw a email(flops email that is) last thur that there were not enough pilots to call a vote? was this some sort of game from the company to stop someone from getting on board or did I read the email wrong?

 

[Joe Jet Pilot]

Rvator

I think you read it wrong!

http://www.teamster.org/06news/hn_060107_2.htm

This should tell it all!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Archie Bunker]

For those that say a union will stop the company from taking more away from you, call a Delta pilot and ask how he likes his 65% pay reduction. There isn't a union in the world that is gonna get you money that the company doesnt have.

Better get your facts straight smart guy, and stop pulling numbers out of your ass. At Delta we have taken a total of two paycuts in the last 13 months. The first was in Dec '04 for 32.5%, and the second was effective Dec 15, 2005 for 14%. Maybe you haven't kept up with the news, but we're in Ch.11 bankruptcy right now. Our future is questionable at best. The situation is slightly different at most fractional airlines with which I am familiar. You actually have a lot of leverage at the bargaining table.....something that most legacy carriers haven't had since early 2001.

From now on, if you're going to spew your anti-union hyperbole all over these boards, do us all a favor and stop making up numbers, ok? Your credibility is already suspect, at best.

 

[XPGuy]

Well said. Schmedley - how's that taste? Have anymore "schmedley's facts" you'd like to spew? Or should we call this a done deal and you can go back to Ford-Harrison and tell them you failed?

 

[tdpilot]

Is anyone interested in unbiased info?

http://www.nmb.gov/representation/faqs-ola.html

http://www.nmb.gov/representation/deter2001/28n034.html

This information is from the National Mediation Board. Read and draw your own conclusions.

 

[taloft]

There is no question his arrival to Flight Options was 90 days too late. It is unfortunate that many are not willing to give him a chance. What harm would it do to shoot this thing down, and give him a chance to produce a package that we can all live with? And if he doesnt come thru, then petition another vote. Just seems like "Ready, Fire, Aim" to me.

Or you could just vote the union in, then ask him to give you a decent contract. If he's such a great guy, a little thing like having a union won't make a difference in treating the employees decently.

 

[Hobbes]

Right, if they are supposedly going to treat us so well anyhow ( I guess you know that for a fact, right Schmeddley? just like Tier 3 guys knew a few years ago they could live in their hometown, right?) well, then they can just treat us well with it locked into a binding contract where they can't take it back at whim. What is the difference, right? Unless, MAYBE those trying to fight a union, don't plan on acting in good faith in the future with regards to our pay and QOL and other issues....That is the only reason I can think of that a company wants to stop a union which is comprised of it's own employees...not outsiders...not Teamsters...we run the union from within our own pilot group. So put it in writing...no problems. Honor the rules...standby them...don't break them every time there is a "need." Otherwise why have rules?

also....I haven't heard you refute any of the reasons why we need a union Shmeddley....or seen you post on the 1108 site either. you have no credibility in my eyes. good day.