Flight Options... Help!

[Biggie]

Looking for any help I can get..Would love to fly for Flight Options, but have no connections(i.e., no one to walk in resume.)
If any one comes into CMH area, would be more than willing to meet with you to get a personal reccomendation. Also, is 1300 TT to low time to apply?..It's almost all jet, BE-400Typed.

 

[Answerguy]

I walked in a friends resume, they had 2700 hours, typed in Kingair 350 and typed in the Beechjet. They sill have not been called. I have not heard of anyone get hired with under 2500hrs.
Good luck!

 

[Biggie]

Oh Well, Maybe I should just pray for war against Iraq and build the rest of my time in the tanker!

 

[Tri-holer]

I had a friend walk my resume in and talked to someone in HR who told me to expect a call in the Apr-May timeframe.

Since then, I have seen on this forum that someone with 2000 hrs, 700 turbine, and jet time had a friend walk their resume in. The friend talked with the pilot recruiter and the guy told him with the amount of referred resumes coming in, 5000 TT is a competitive time and with less than 3000 TT, the CP would need to authorize that person coming in to interview.

With my 2200 TT and 1000 SIC B-727, I figure I'm not even competive and I have stopped waiting by the phone. I do check messages just in case someone makes a mistake. It happens, you know.

If I were you, I'd keep passing gas.

 

[flydog]

I have a slightly over 2000 hrs, 700 jet and 150 PIC Jet mostly 135 with a Westwind type, some Hawker SIC time, and King Air 200 time. After a friend at Flops walked my resume in it took about 3-4 months for E.G. to look at it and then he needed permission from the Chief Pilot to interview me since I was real low time compared to the vast majority of other applicants. The competitive applicants have over 3000 hrs and they have a lot of retired and experienced 121 and corporate jet guys to choose from.

Bottom line is it will not only take someone walking your resume in but also experience in jet equipment preferably 121 or 135,a bizjet type rating and corporate experience is another big plus as is PIC jet time.

I got the call last week but I ended up turning down the interview since I recently took a Captain job for a lot more money. However E.G.was nice enough to let me know that if I was interested in the future to give him a call back. Seem like real nice people and I wish they would have called sooner.

I was told hiring now is into the CitationJet 1, Citation II, V, Beechjet and King Air depending on what slots they have when you are hired. Upgrade to the King Air left seat is running about 6 months and jet left seat 1 1/2 yrs depending on airplane. The small cabin airplanes are the big sellers and that were most of the growth is especially the CJ1.

 

[Tri-holer]

Hey Flydog

Congrats on the captain job. Maybe that means that I have a chance afterall. Maybe E. G. will take pity on me and call me up soon.

Who said that upgrade was 6 months on the KA? I have been seeing 2-3 years in different places - I think, on the FO bulletin board. A quick upgrade like that would be great.

Good luck in your new job.

 

[Biggie]

Thanks for the input. I guess they don't care if you are already bizjet typed and fly a 707. Maybe 4 engines is not enough, and I should go smash bugs for a few thousand hours to make myself more marketable.

 

[Diesel]

Or maybe Biggie it was that winning attitude that will get you called.

 

[Answerguy]

BIGGIE: First get 1500 hours so you can get your ATP, then least you would have the minimum requirements. As for your 707 time, I once heard a rumer that the military was trying to train monkeys to sit in the right seat, but the monkey kept falling asleep! Just kidding. If you have T1 time one would think that would be a huge +.
Good Luck

 

[Turbanhead]

...and remember...

...just remember to "fly a little scared."

;-)

 

[GooseHZ]

WHY

WHAT IS YOUR DEAL???

If your so happy NOT be a FRAC pilot why dont you stay the hell off the FRAC pilots pages???

 

[publisher]

Flyfog

Flydog,

Someone is going to pay you or let you fly a plane as captain. Surely they are going to make you file a NOTAM or something so others will know you are in the air.

 

[Frac Daddy]

Is that your boat Answerguy?

 

[Timebuilder]

Now why would anyone make a crack about a "notam" when a guy is fortunate enough to upgrade to captain in an expeditious manner?

Great job, flydog. If you weren't up to speed, you pobably wouldn't have the job.

 

[WileE]

Depends more on who's doing the walking.

Yes hours seem to count, but from what I've heard it matters more who you know. I worked with a guy that just got picked up and is starting class in mid June who had barely 2200 total time, most of it banging around 1900's, with less than 700 served from the left seat. He admits that the reason he got the job is that he was on good terms with a guy working at FO already, not for any other reason.

 

[DIAMONDDD]

Hello

Welcome to the "real world". It has always been "who you know". I am sure there are folks hired at the big three that had less qualifications than some of your commuter captains. The one thing these folks that got hired was an inside scoop. It just doesn't matter if you have a few jet types and a few thousand hours as jet PIC as long as you have someone on the inside helping you out. I never heard a peep from the airlines (except USAir) until a buddy of mine got off probation and wrote me a LOR. Within one week, I had an app. sent to me which pretty much meant an interview. I will be the first to admit it, the whole hiring thing is a fickle sport!!!!
Didn't mean to piddle on your parade, but that is how it is.
DD

 

[Eagle]

Re: Depends more on who's doing the walking.

..but from what I've heard it matters more who you know. ...

Truthfully it is who KNOWS you. The fuel jockey at the mom and pop FBO or the F16 pilot may know dozens of people in the industry, however in real life it breaks down to who knows you and would want to fly with you. Also does that person have confidence enough in your ability to put his/her name anywhere near your application. It is a subtle difference but an important one.

 

[Timebuilder]

You're right. It is a subtle, but very important difference.

 

[publisher]

meet them

They will be at the career fair this weekend in FLL. Go meet them and talk to them.
There is not one recruiter that I know that does not like to see the person rather than the paper. Face time, it is invaluable.

 

[WileE]

Job fair?

Ok, I'm new to this board so I might be missing something. What are the details on this job fair? Where might I find the 5 W's on this thing? Any place the FO HR guys will be is someplace I'm going to try and get to if the flight schedule permits.