flight ops contract

[fracjack]

Wow, thats a real knee slapper. Completely un-true, but really funny. Ya know, I started to sit down and refute your distortions point by point, but I decided freeloaders like you are not worth it. You don't have a vote, or a say in how the union is run anyway, so who cares what you think.

Anyways, I stand behind the information I posted earlier. Any pilot (even you freeloader) can plug in his date of hire/fleet/monthly salary pre-contract into the "salary calculator" on the unions message board and generate his/her own numbers. I think anyone who does so will see for themselves that you didn't do any homework before posting that wildly inaccurate BS above.

Pure BS Praetorian! You have no rebuttle over the facts. But I'm sure you're pleased as punch to supplement your military retirement. Those of us who have been in the industry for a career see right through your limited experience. Just stay in line as the follower the view will never change.

 

[1folinepilot]

Praetorian the unifier has spoken so all is cleared up! BP needs a new spin Dr./spokesperson, perhaps you can get a job over there now that your job is complete at Options.

 

[1folinepilot]

Wow, thats a real knee slapper. Completely un-true, but really funny. Ya know, I started to sit down and refute your distortions point by point, but I decided freeloaders like you are not worth it. You don't have a vote, or a say in how the union is run anyway, so who cares what you think.

Anyways, I stand behind the information I posted earlier. Any pilot (even you freeloader) can plug in his date of hire/fleet/monthly salary pre-contract into the "salary calculator" on the unions message board and generate his/her own numbers. I think anyone who does so will see for themselves that you didn't do any homework before posting that wildly inaccurate BS above.

Praetorian, How about 1 easy question for you since you are unable to refute the truths I have posted. How many members in good standing voted yes for your contract. You should be proud of your achievement and post the election results.

 

[Praetorian]

Pure BS Praetorian! You have no rebuttle over the facts. But I'm sure you're pleased as punch to supplement your military retirement. Those of us who have been in the industry for a career see right through your limited experience. Just stay in line as the follower the view will never change.

Up yours fracjack-wagon. Weren't you one of the in-house union pushers? So you undermined the union at a critical time in negotiations, showed you a$$ to management and now you have the gall to come on here and complain about the contract you tried to prevent from becoming a reality in any form. Remember the old axiom, "don't s**t were you eat and then complain about the taste of your food."

It occurred to me that most of the in-housers were in the large cabin. I'll bet when you plugged your numbers into the union's salary calculator as I suggested, you liked what you saw.

But you know my favorite thing about having a union? There is an election every three years and if we don't like the way the e-board guys are running things we get to run for office and replace them.

Two bad free-loaders can't participate. Not that I think either of you two have the stones to stand up and run even if you could. No your much better suited for complaining. :bawling:

 

[fracjack]

Sorry to dissapoint you praetorian, but in house would never work,especially with the likes of peeps like you who pay dues and fly overtime plus break airplanes at your convenience and suck up to management all at the same time. Your type will think only of what's in it for you and hide behind your migs status. Flops will never be a career position. IBT will never last at flops let alone attract other fracs.You sold out and association fees equal to dues is not freeloading it's a pay cut for the majority,but you don't get the big picture and this is a waste of time.

 

[FR8DOG777]

Welcome to the party. Where the f were you when the vote took place. If mat asked you to jump off a bridge would you follow? Flops is an epic waste of time, the IBT is a bigger waste of time and this place is a joke. Mayhem is coming to flops sooner than later. Enjoy that seven year ******************** sandwhich while ricci and co laughs you all the way to the bank. Congratulations you now have a contract, it is crap but you have a contract. My condolences to mat and co they really pulled one off. Quit you're bitchin and run for office and replace that piece of spineless ********************!

 

[rufus]

so in plain english, your contract pays 30 percent less than NETJETS. NOT GOOD, but better than before.

 

[Frac Cap]

Only 30% less, I wish we had that good of a contract. I would say you would have to double that number. Our 10 year guy on a 7/7 gets only 75K vs. their 119K. Thats about 60% less by my math. This sucks.


Oh, lets not forget they still get their 401K and free health care. How much is that 401K saving saving management. Lets face it, until we get our 401K back, we are showing the competition that we are still struggling and can't compete in the industry.