Flight Instructing and wants to go Regional

[Airpiraterob]

yeah, right on NJA capt. it was interesting...."all right..we get to fly a jet!" was the thoughts going into the sim...and the first thing i did was hang off the tail on that first hop. the callouts came faster than i could say them...much less remember them...and we were only doing pattern/air work.......wake up! its different when your new plane climbs to your cessna cruising altitude in a minute even....

be on your toes.

also, the only time youll get to really discover what a slam dunk approach starting at 11k/300+kts is like in the jet is with paying passengers in back.

that was the next wake up call.....same but different airwork all together

 

[Vik]

Reminds me of that Sienfeld episode where George starts working for that compnay when he hasn't really been hired officially.

Thats classic, but its also a bad idea because if "Judy" finally finds her paperwork and figures out she never called him, he'll get canned for lying.

XJT, you should know what works to get the interview.

Make the phone call to that person who selects interviewees or even go and make a personal visit. Use your networking skills now. Do you know anyone interning now at XJT? Have them pull your file and mix it into the to be called pile.

I know of one pilot that showed up to a regional airline interview when he wasn't called to interview. He told the HR lady "Judy" called him. Well Judy couldnt remember if she called so they let him stay to interview and he was offered a job.

 

[Superpilot92]

That would be great. That is funny. The news i here is that they arent doing anymore phone calls till Jan. though. Sucks but at least i have a flying job now istructing in order to keep up the currency. I will be instructing till i get a job somewhere. I dont know any of the interns there right now either.

 

[stb]

I'm sure you have some phone numbers

call HQ and talk to whoever's secretary. Most commuters I've been around, the secretary or inter pick the files to be called.
Call and talk to a intern, ask questions.

Are my times competative?
When are calls going out to interview?
Does my app look complete?

Are you positive they have your app or is it lost in the mail or lost in E-mail land?

The news you hear is it from their XJT HQ or from web boards or FBO lounges?

 

[CRJDog]

Boy do I feel sorry for those XJet captains!!

Tru dat!

 

[CRJ puppy]

Current Position: Flying the SEMEN HOLE

The above, as well as his screenname, speak volumes regarding his maturity level. Hopefully this will be obvious during the interview process.

Peace.

 

[Superpilot92]

Its A joke!! Wow shows your sense of humor!!

 

[Superpilot92]

CRJ puppy
Registered User


Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 201


Aircraft Experience: CL-65 & others
Flight Experience: civilian
Ratings: way too many
Current Position: CRJ driver
Total Time: 5500+

Way to many ratings!! WOW! Look at your maturity level!! and a CRJ Driver - congradulations. Relax man it will all be ok

 

[Vik]

People have been calling the PA-44 the "Semen Hole" *forever* and I've heard everyone from 744 Capts to CFIs call it that.

Lets not forgot that when you were at 750 hrs and instructing, I'm sure if someone gave you the chance to fly a RJ, you would have jumped at it. Can't blame the guy for being anxious. Can't spend the rest of your life instructing.

Current Position: Flying the SEMEN HOLE

The above, as well as his screenname, speak volumes regarding his maturity level. Hopefully this will be obvious during the interview process.

Peace.

 

[svcta]

CRJ puppy, you're a raging idiot. I hate raging idiots. Say something to prove me wrong....

 

[Steveair]

With a name like super pilot, 750 hours of time and comments like above, maybe generaltso isn't too far off. Consider yourself lucky if you get the XJet call, but as for the rest of the industry plan on 1200/200 as a MINIMUM. I would set that as your goal instead of trying to angle for a lucky break at a 121 carrier. Not that I would have passed up ANY call when I had 750, the point is, carriers have minimums for a reason. At 750 hours, yes you're capable in a single, maybe a small twin, but jets with 50 passengers are a whole new deal. Get more multi, get some jet time, keep working and it will happen. Everyone else in this forum was just as anxious as you at 750, you just have to keep flying, that's the only real answer.

Amen to that. Everyone seems obsessed with the fast track lately and you should really put in your time. It used to be a few years of instructing at a minimum before you anyone would even touch you! Additionally, instructing can make you a better pilot and help build your experience, judgement, and knowledge. There's always something more you can do; fly a different plane, teach different students.

If you ever quit learning, you better quit flying.

 

[Steveair]

Boy I feel sorry for XJET Captains

Tru dat!

XJET Captains.... look at Peidmont's hirring lately! Eish ~ half the people haven't even instructed.

 

[minitour]

Everyone needs a break in life. Hopefully I'll be able to get one when the time comes. I think you've got a great in there, you interned there. Does that mean they will interview you, let alone hire you? No. And I don't think you implied or stated that (unless I misread somewhere). But I'd say go for it. You've got to use every single advantage you have/can get. Then when you get there, pay it forward.

As for "I feel sorry for XJT captains":
Just guessing, but if a 600/100 pilot were offered a job and couldn't keep up with the sim, wouldn't you think "okay, thanks for coming see ya"?

Not sure how much ($) goes into hiring someone at the airline level, but back when I was in retail, they used to tell me everyone I hired would cost my store about $500 in training...didn't really matter to me. I'd boot them out on day one if they were 1 second late or wearing tennis shoes.

Isn't there a level of "standardization" at that level wrt training/proficiency?

-mini

 

[CUEBOAT]

And the travelling public deserves more. Heck, we all deserve more.

well you might as well fly like a below average pilot if your paid like one

 

[bailout]

>half the people haven't even instructed<<

You're kidding right??

I didnt realize that flying around the pattern in a C152 was so important.

 

[Superpilot92]

thanks for the advice

 

[General Lee]

Superpilot92,


Go for XJET.(Expressjet) As long as you know the pay won't be great the first year and your new wife and child don't mind that, then just go for it. You have trained to be a pilot and you obviously enjoy it, and you will also enjoy XJET. Don't let these other disgruntled pilots tell you to do something else, follow your passion. Just understand that you might not make a lot of money, and you may be away from your family 18-20 days a month. It is still a good job.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Superpilot92]

Superpilot92,


Go for XJET.(Expressjet) As long as you know the pay won't be great the first year and your new wife and child don't mind that, then just go for it. You have trained to be a pilot and you obviously enjoy it, and you will also enjoy XJET. Don't let these other disgruntled pilots tell you to do something else, follow your passion. Just understand that you might not make a lot of money, and you may be away from your family 18-20 days a month. It is still a good job.


Bye Bye--General Lee

I know the first year pay sucks. First year Jet pilot should definitly make more money than that. We have all put forth alot of time and effort, lets dont forget MONEY to be pilots. We should get paid more. I love flying and could never even imagine sitting behind a desk everyday at the same office building day in and day out. My wife knows the pay stinks at least at first.
I am pretty fortunate with my instructing job right now. I make 16.50 and hour and can work as much as i want everymonth. I get 2 free multi hours every month to go practise shooting approaches or go on short cross countrys. So the money at the regionals isnt much more than i make now but i would be getting much better flight experiance and get into the turbine time. I am looking at going to the majors some day or even fedex who knows and to me the quickest shot there would be the regionals. Especially at the rate they are hiring now. Besides this is the aviation world we are talking about none of us know what tomorrow will bring. Its like i keep saying i am riding the bus and trying to make good decisions at this very important time in my career. That being choosing 121 or 135 or even 91 for that matter. Thanks again.

 

[ParrotheadPilot]

SuperPilot,

I'm in the same boat you are, except I have 3 more semesters in college. I'll be one of those 1000 and 1 wonders at some lucky regional. Everyone was there at one point. Good luck getting out of instructing and into a jet.

 

[mooser]

give me a break!!!

 

[Superpilot92]

Work hard and continue to fly. thats what it boils down to.

 

[minitour]

minitour

I am only gurenteed an interview. Not a job! i have to earn that....

I think you misunderstood me.

I was saying that I agreed with you that you aren't guaranteed anything. Someone earlier had posted that you were implying that since you interned there, you had it locked up. All I was saying was that I didn't think you were saying that and I agreed with you.

However, I am obviously wrong in that you are guaranteed the interview. If this is the case, then make everything you can out of it. Seems like XJT (from what I've been reading) is a great place to be.

Good luck.

-mini

 

[88_MALIBU]

Must be a UND grad... You didnt happen to intern with the infamous "gear up" class did you? I heard stories... Im an ex UND ATC'er

 

[Superpilot92]

minitour


i knew what you were getting at. that sentence was directed towards those who thought interns were just given jobs. People also dont realize that interns work there for a whole semester and dont get paid anything. $-0- While we work at the company we put time in with the people there and work and jumpseat and just try to show them not only are we good pilots but hard workers also. At least most interns have that mentality. I learned so much during my stay there and i cant wait to go back. I met many many great people. My main point is that there are alot of good pilots out there whom want to progress and want to be captains some day. But first we have to be first officers so we can learn and build more flight experiance. I dont want a job just handed to me. I didnt work my arse off through out training and college. I take great pride in my flying. I made it a goal to earn all of my ratings with out ever pinking one and i accomplished that goal. I have had no students fail checkrides that i have signed off and i take great pride in everything that i do. That will carry over into any job i recieve in the future. I truley feel sorry for those whom hate their jobs. I have had jobs before that i hated but fortunatly for me i love flying airplanes. There is just not much cooler than what we do.

 

[Sir Humpalot]

I think i am going to puke after reading your mindless posts. Its not that a 750 pilot is a bad thing and that we should help you out, but your lectures and the means by which you put others down by rambling on here is sad and pathetic.


Show some respect for your fellow aviators, some of the people who know more and experienced more, rather than insulting them. There is nothing wrong with having the drive, but dont walk over your peers to get where you are going. In my new hire class, we have a bunch of aviation college grads but hardly any show the professionalism and common sense that is needed when flying in a crew environment.

Lastly, super92, grow up cuz this is a small business and the person you insult today, will be interviewing you tomorrow. Its not that difficult to find out who you are and believe me, xjet knows that you are posting on this board.

If you were an intern, why dont you contact the manager that you worked for.

 

[generaltso]

I agree it is getting kind of old. With the amount of replies it seems liked you spent the whole day refreshing this page and replying to people... guess no students today?

Anyway, stop talking about it. The people that are always saying "I am paying my dues" or "I have paid my dues"... I have found those people don't really understand the meaning of the term. The real guys - they go to work everyday to try to work hard and make a living. They don't talk about paying dues - they just do it.

Just stop talking about it already. Do whatever you feel is best for yourself, and your family. Go to work, work hard, cash your paycheck. You keep saying over and over that you are paying your dues and are so excited about working for Coex and flying a jet. It's getting really old.

I think i am going to puke after reading your mindless posts. Its not that a 750 pilot is a bad thing and that we should help you out, but your lectures and the means by which you put others down by rambling on here is sad and pathetic.

 

[Superpilot92]

I come on this forum to learn from people on what to do and what not to do. I have learned alot through this. Main thing is show up work and move onto bigger and better things.

 

[General Lee]

Super92,


I didn't think you were being rude. I think Sirhumpalot---or "The Man with 1700 hours" is being a jerk. I hope he enjoys aviation as much as you do. Don't listen to his krap. Go forward and try to get on with Xjet. You may need a few more hours to be competitive, but there is nothing wrong with trying. An ASA friend of mine told me that a few ASA guys who were Riddle interns got on with 500 hours total and 100 multi. If they can do it, then maybe you can. Good luck.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Superpilot92]

Thanks general. I take what people like generaltso says with a grain of salt. I get on this site to get advice from experianced guys to see what it is i can do to better prepare myself so that they wont be able to tell the difference between someone with 3ooo hours and someone like me with just under 1000. I appreciate it again.

 

[svcta]

Generaltso and humpalot:

Why do you(and the other naysayers who have posted here) get so upset that this guy is trying to dind his way to a better job? You've done nothing but villafy him for "walking over his peers" and being a snotnose because he wants to get out of flight instructing. He has NEVER insulted anybody on this thread, and offered every explanation he's had to purely in self defense. I'm really dissapointed that you buttheads can only find your way in to being spiteful, devoid of any kind of class, and at the very least just mean-spirited.

Posted by sirhumpalot:

"Lastly, super92, grow up cuz this is a small business and the person you insult today, will be interviewing you tomorrow. Its not that difficult to find out who you are and believe me, xjet knows that you are posting on this board."

Buddy, take your own advice, because I'd prefer someone like super over a self-important blowhard like yourself. And can the big brother crap. XJET is not watching to see what people are posting on here so they can go through HR files and blacklist people. Jeez, more raging idiots.