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Flight attendants union sues Delta over seniority plan

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Flight attendants union sues Delta over seniority plan

By KELLY YAMANOUCHI
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Monday, November 24, 2008
The Association of Flight Attendants has filed suit against Delta Air Lines in federal court in Washington, D.C., seeking to prohibit Delta from carrying out a seniority integration process before its flight attendants vote on union representation.
Now that Atlanta-based Delta has closed its merger with Eagan, Minn.-based Northwest Airlines, many employees at the combined carrier, including flight attendants, will likely vote on whether to unionize. Flight attendants at Northwest are represented by the Association of Flight Attendants union, while flight attendants at Delta are not unionized.



The airline and the flight attendants union are each taking positions on the seniority integration matter that could influence the outcome of the union representation vote. One key issue is whether Delta flight attendants would benefit more from a seniority integration process, dubbed “fair and equitable,” according to federal law, which Delta is using, versus the union’s seniority integration process, called “date of hire.”
The flight attendants union said Monday in a message to its members that “Delta’s premature actions are designed to undermine AFA.”
In the court filing on the seniority integration process, the union argues that Delta is unlawfully interfering with the rights of employees to choose their representative for organizing and bargaining without interference, influence or coercion by Delta.
The union also states in the filing that by starting the seniority integration process before the union representation vote, “Delta seeks to force AFA to take a position which may benefit pre-merger Northwest flight attendants to the detriment of the unrepresented Delta work force and thereby influence the unrepresented Delta flight attendants in an effort to induce them not to vote for AFA in the event of a representation dispute,” which the union said amounts to unlawful interference with the choice of a bargaining representative.
Delta spokesman Kent Landers said the company believes the AFA’s position is “wrong as a matter of law and does not serve the interest of our combined flight attendant group.”
AFA attorney Ed Gilmartin argued that Delta “is trying to use holding the fair and equitable seniority integration as a carrot to the Delta flight attendants to follow this procedure instead of AFA’s, with the not-so-subtle message that you’ll do better under fair and equitable.”
For flight attendants, seniority can affect the flights they work and what trips they get, among other things, and is “one of the big issues for this merger for flight attendants from both sides,” said Joanne Smith, Delta’s senior vice president of inflight service.
 

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One key issue is whether Delta flight attendants would benefit more from a seniority integration process, dubbed “fair and equitable,” according to federal law, which Delta is using, versus the union’s seniority integration process, called “date of hire.”

What a shocker
 

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Now we get to see the dinosaurs fight it out!

"The average DAL FA has 6.5 housecats, while the average NWA FA has 3.1 housecats. Obviously, DAL FA's have higher career expectations and should be given consideration in the integration."
 

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Now we get to see the dinosaurs fight it out!

"The average DAL FA has 6.5 housecats, while the average NWA FA has 3.1 housecats. Obviously, DAL FA's have higher career expectations and should be given consideration in the integration."

I heard the NWA flight attendants based in SEA were called "Gorillas in the mist....."

Bye Bye--General Lee
 

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Don't you know that NWA has 4 F/A uniform sizes?

Small
Medium
Large
Seattle
 

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Understand the reason for the litigation is that the union wants the representation vote before the SLI.

They are in a bit of a no-win. If they represent the NWA FA's against the Delta FA's interests they likely will not gain the vote of the majority Delta FA's.

If they prevail and get the representational vote first, it reduces the risk to the union.
 

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If they get all of NWA FA's that voted in AFA and the percentage of Delta FA's who voted for AFA then the majority vote would be to unionize.

This suit is a bigger issue than most people think. Just look what might happen:
The possibilities of Mergers between companies in the near future, the NMB's decisions and actions, the loss of 30 years of collective bargaining rights, the list can go on and on.

So no, I don't thinks its a no win situation, its a HAVE TO WIN situation.

Why would anyone want arbitrators to determine there futures!
 

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I hope I didn't mis understand your quote. But the news article reflected what happened to the NWA/DELTA Pilots. As you can see thats why my post makes more sense. Hopefully those FA's at both NWA/Delta learn something from this outcome.
 

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I hope I didn't mis understand your quote. But the news article reflected what happened to the NWA/DELTA Pilots. As you can see thats why my post makes more sense. Hopefully those FA's at both NWA/Delta learn something from this outcome.

So, are you for them getting a union or against them getting a union? You know...seeing how both pilot groups were represented by a union and your funny quote. :D
 
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