FlexJet Upgrade??

[pilotpat]

Wow. Lots of hostility on this one. I vote to continue the question at hand. Unless that would sound "unionistic" (my word!). If that's the case vote no. Oops, but that would make you less of an individual if you vote, and maybe lose a sense of self.

Crap.

What was the question again?

 

[Iam3rd]

Wow. Lots of hostility on this one. I vote to continue the question at hand. Unless that would sound "unionistic" (my word!). If that's the case vote no. Oops, but that would make you less of an individual if you vote, and maybe lose a sense of self.

Crap.

What was the question again?

I have no issue with voting. I think voting is one of the greatest freedoms given to us in this country. I just enjoy debating my reason for voting "no".....Lord knows there are enough people on here to state the case for voting "yes". But in the end it is everyones freedom to vote for what they feel is right. And I fault no one for that.

But to listen to some of these guys on here they act as though their opinion is the only one that matters and will attempt to rip you a new one for believing anything else.

.........now back to the original question..........what was it again?

 

[gunfyter]

How do you feel about 135/91K prospective rest?


If you like it... thank an IBT1108 Teamster. 135 managements lobbied (and filed lawsuits) against it.

 

[Diesel]

You can see you're embarrassed because you actually said it was a story you made up. Now we're given a little more insight into who the man is. You say courage to stand up for what he believes in. I say someone who only looks out for himself while his coworkers bear the brunt of the effect of him crossing the line. Of course i'm sure he enjoyed the benefits of the new contract his fellow workers got while he got to play both sides of the fence.

 

[Iam3rd]

You can see you're embarrassed because you actually said it was a story you made up. Now we're given a little more insight into who the man is. You say courage to stand up for what he believes in. I say someone who only looks out for himself while his coworkers bear the brunt of the effect of him crossing the line. Of course i'm sure he enjoyed the benefits of the new contract his fellow workers got while he got to play both sides of the fence.

That makes no sense what so ever. The easier thing to do would have been to not cross the line. But by crossing the line and standing for what he believed in he endured ridicule, death threats, sand in his gas tank. Please explain to me how that is looking our for himself? I really would like to know how you come to that conclusion.....and by the way, you say his coworkers had to bear the brunt of the affect of him crossing the line.......how hard is it to walk in a circle with a stick in your hand....sounds like he was the one making the bigger sacrifice for what he believed in.

 

[gunfyter]

....sounds like he was the one making the bigger sacrifice for what he believed in.

Like Benedict Arnold?

 

[Diesel]

How hard is it knowing you are putting your families income on hold to carry those signs around? Knowing that you might not come back to work but you believe in the cause that strong.

Yet some people sneak through the line because they equate values with income. They make excuses, but in the reality they couldn't make the same sacrifices for the greater good of all employees.

Sound about right? Sure does.

 

[Iam3rd]

Like Benedict Arnold?

yea.....I guess he would best describe the union side of things.

 

[Iam3rd]

How hard is it knowing you are putting your families income on hold to carry those signs around? Knowing that you might not come back to work but you believe in the cause that strong.

Yet some people sneak through the line because they equate values with income. They make excuses, but in the reality they couldn't make the same sacrifices for the greater good of all employees.

Sound about right? Sure does.

It had nothing to do with income........but I don't expect you to understand the principles behind it.

Please explain to me why y'all do not think a person has a right to an opinion and a right to take a stand for that opinion without you crucifying him over it.......is your opinion the only one that matters?

 

[hammer2]

Can't we all just get along? Let us have peace, we are brothers and sisters mannnn.... Out of curiosity, If it came to a vote which way do think it would go? Diesel leave the word ya'll alone!

 

[doh]

What ever you need to tell yourself



It is correct english...look it up...or go back to school



He was not my biological father, but a friend of the family. If it makes you feel better I will gladly claim him as my father. He proudly wears the title of a scab....someone who has courage to stand for what he believe to be right in the face of peer preasure from his co-workers. You would never see a union guy do that.....union guys will cave to the majority because they are afraid of the results or the label they might receive.

We had some guys at Comair who were on the property when the union was voted in. They exercised their right not to join (the grandfather clause). They could have crossed and it would have been a matter of principle. If you go to a company that yhas a union, you are defacto accepting the rules and saying you will join. You are then unprincipled if you cross. That makes you a scab. Having said that, I would also exercise my grandfather rights if a union was voted in at Flex. That is my principles. Hopefully, we will never face that choice! Status quo sounds good to me. Oh, and I have not met very many unhappy Netjetters. But I haven't met many unhappy Flexjetters either. Thank God both companies seem to get it in their own way!:beer: There are many Comair refugees at Netjets and I hope they are happy as clams! Cause I am!

 

[Ultra Grump]

I want to know how he went from "Googester" to "Iam3rd."

 

[Guitar rocker]

He was not my biological father, but a friend of the family. If it makes you feel better I will gladly claim him as my father. He proudly wears the title of a scab....someone who has courage to stand for what he believe to be right in the face of peer preasure from his co-workers. You would never see a union guy do that.....union guys will cave to the majority because they are afraid of the results or the label they might receive.

Yah, you cross and you will find yourself in that little yellow book. A union guy isnt afraid of being labeled as you say....but he wont cross because he has dignity and doesnt want to let down his own or his brothers and sisters of that industry as well. Thats a badge of honor I would say......but a badge not worn by those who cross.

 

[Diesel]

Kind of funny because his hatred of unions his new screen name should be Iam1.

My opinion isn't the only one that matters. You dad was a union teacher. If he didn't want to be a union teacher he should have found a job elsewhere. If his principles were so high and mighty he should have gone to a nice little private school.

He enjoyed working under the same contract as everyone else, with the same rules as everyone else. Except when it didn't fit his needs. Thats when he went off on his own. Although when the strike was done everybody returned back to work under the new contract. Your dad included. He reaped the benefits of being able to work the whole time (under the guise of helping the kids) and then enjoy whatever greater benefits the union provided in its new contract.

If he was so morally opposed he should have gone to seek a new job at a new school.

 

[gunfyter]

Do upgrades proceed according to seniority and bids?

How do you know when its your turn?