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[vixin]

Ok, I'm trying to follow your logic stream here so help me out. If Flex unionized WHY won't they be able to help their employees??? I'm just curious, because that statement makes no sense to me. Maybe you can clear it up with some facts to actually base this statement on. Or then again maybe you can't.

Because this is what RH tells everybody. "If a union comes we wont be able to to do the things we do for families." It is his anti union tactics. He has the koolaid brain washed idiots believing him.

 

[Iam3rd]

RH didn't tell me those things......but it is fact that with a union it is harder (not impossible, but harder) for the company to do those type things due to being held to the guidelines of a contract. It gives them less freedom. But as always, I am sure this point will be discredited by the union guys.

 

[Diesel]

I'm sorry, but I just can't help myself. I get the biggest kick out of listening to you guys get your panties all in a wad, ranting and raving.....I guess I have to get my humor from somewhere.

What I get is the biggest kick is watching you try to show how much you hate unions when in fact you've never been in one, your dad was a scab, and you can't even comprehend how one works.

You're right though we all have a good laugh at your expense.

 

[Guitar rocker]

I'm sorry, but I just can't help myself. I get the biggest kick out of listening to you guys get your panties all in a wad, ranting and raving.....I guess I have to get my humor from somewhere.

Your Dad was a scab?

 

[Iam3rd]

Its amazing how you have no idea what your talking about. Just because I have never been in a union doesn't mean I don't know anything about it. Most of y'all have never worked at Flex. You don't know how the majority of pilots feel, but you sure do talk like you know everything there is to know about it and why they need a union......same thing. Granted you might find some pilots not happy, but its not the majority. I bet for every discontent Flex pilot you could find, I could find an equal amount of NJ pilots also unhappy.....and y'all have a union.

Trust me.....its not at my expense. Y'all are the ones that take the bait every single time. Any time I need a good laugh, I just get on here and respond to one of y'alls comments.......thank you again for the laugh.

 

[Iam3rd]

Your Dad was a scab?

No, but it did make for a good story to get these guys heated up....

 

[vixin]

RH didn't tell me those things......but it is fact that with a union it is harder (not impossible, but harder) for the company to do those type things due to being held to the guidelines of a contract. It gives them less freedom. But as always, I am sure this point will be discredited by the union guys.

I never said it is what he told you. I have spoken with RH about this myself. He has said this to others and will continue to say this. It is not harder for a company to remain human if a union is on property. As the NJ guys have stated. They say NJ will do the same things Flex does when there is a family issue. It is RH fear tactics and seems to work.

 

[Diesel]

Just because I have never been in a union doesn't mean I don't know anything about it.

yes it does

Most of y'all have never worked at Flex.

Nice english but you don't either or just started there. Not much experience to talk once again.

No, but it did make for a good story to get these guys heated up....

Lets see he hates unions, then he says his dad was a scab. After everyone blasted him he says, "i made it all up." Riiiiight

 

[Iam3rd]

yes it does


Nice english but you don't either or just started there. Not much experience to talk once again.



Lets see he hates unions, then he says his dad was a scab. After everyone blasted him he says, "i made it all up." Riiiiight

But yet you know everything there is to about Flex.......and you know exactly how every pilot feels there.......riiiiiiggghhhhttt

 

[Iam3rd]

yes it does

What ever you need to tell yourself

Nice english but you don't either or just started there. Not much experience to talk once again.

It is correct english...look it up...or go back to school

Lets see he hates unions, then he says his dad was a scab. After everyone blasted him he says, "i made it all up." Riiiiight

He was not my biological father, but a friend of the family. If it makes you feel better I will gladly claim him as my father. He proudly wears the title of a scab....someone who has courage to stand for what he believe to be right in the face of peer preasure from his co-workers. You would never see a union guy do that.....union guys will cave to the majority because they are afraid of the results or the label they might receive.

 

[pilotpat]

Wow. Lots of hostility on this one. I vote to continue the question at hand. Unless that would sound "unionistic" (my word!). If that's the case vote no. Oops, but that would make you less of an individual if you vote, and maybe lose a sense of self.

Crap.

What was the question again?

 

[Iam3rd]

Wow. Lots of hostility on this one. I vote to continue the question at hand. Unless that would sound "unionistic" (my word!). If that's the case vote no. Oops, but that would make you less of an individual if you vote, and maybe lose a sense of self.

Crap.

What was the question again?

I have no issue with voting. I think voting is one of the greatest freedoms given to us in this country. I just enjoy debating my reason for voting "no".....Lord knows there are enough people on here to state the case for voting "yes". But in the end it is everyones freedom to vote for what they feel is right. And I fault no one for that.

But to listen to some of these guys on here they act as though their opinion is the only one that matters and will attempt to rip you a new one for believing anything else.

.........now back to the original question..........what was it again?

 

[gunfyter]

How do you feel about 135/91K prospective rest?


If you like it... thank an IBT1108 Teamster. 135 managements lobbied (and filed lawsuits) against it.

 

[Diesel]

You can see you're embarrassed because you actually said it was a story you made up. Now we're given a little more insight into who the man is. You say courage to stand up for what he believes in. I say someone who only looks out for himself while his coworkers bear the brunt of the effect of him crossing the line. Of course i'm sure he enjoyed the benefits of the new contract his fellow workers got while he got to play both sides of the fence.

 

[Iam3rd]

You can see you're embarrassed because you actually said it was a story you made up. Now we're given a little more insight into who the man is. You say courage to stand up for what he believes in. I say someone who only looks out for himself while his coworkers bear the brunt of the effect of him crossing the line. Of course i'm sure he enjoyed the benefits of the new contract his fellow workers got while he got to play both sides of the fence.

That makes no sense what so ever. The easier thing to do would have been to not cross the line. But by crossing the line and standing for what he believed in he endured ridicule, death threats, sand in his gas tank. Please explain to me how that is looking our for himself? I really would like to know how you come to that conclusion.....and by the way, you say his coworkers had to bear the brunt of the affect of him crossing the line.......how hard is it to walk in a circle with a stick in your hand....sounds like he was the one making the bigger sacrifice for what he believed in.

 

[gunfyter]

....sounds like he was the one making the bigger sacrifice for what he believed in.

Like Benedict Arnold?

 

[Diesel]

How hard is it knowing you are putting your families income on hold to carry those signs around? Knowing that you might not come back to work but you believe in the cause that strong.

Yet some people sneak through the line because they equate values with income. They make excuses, but in the reality they couldn't make the same sacrifices for the greater good of all employees.

Sound about right? Sure does.

 

[Iam3rd]

Like Benedict Arnold?

yea.....I guess he would best describe the union side of things.

 

[Iam3rd]

How hard is it knowing you are putting your families income on hold to carry those signs around? Knowing that you might not come back to work but you believe in the cause that strong.

Yet some people sneak through the line because they equate values with income. They make excuses, but in the reality they couldn't make the same sacrifices for the greater good of all employees.

Sound about right? Sure does.

It had nothing to do with income........but I don't expect you to understand the principles behind it.

Please explain to me why y'all do not think a person has a right to an opinion and a right to take a stand for that opinion without you crucifying him over it.......is your opinion the only one that matters?

 

[hammer2]

Can't we all just get along? Let us have peace, we are brothers and sisters mannnn.... Out of curiosity, If it came to a vote which way do think it would go? Diesel leave the word ya'll alone!