Flexj food for thought!

[flexO]

FYI,

At Netjets as an F/O, expect to make anywhere from $5,000-$15,000 more than your base salary per year. It all depends on how much O/T you get on your first day of a tour, per diem, etc. On average I would say 7 on/7 off pilots make about $50k in yr one and $55k in yr two.

Great contract guys:beer:

Go to our IBT Flexjet sight

C U at the Top!

 

[netjetwife]

Best Wishes to those taking the first step---

Warning: not intended to be read by those who dislike my expressions of support. On the other hand,
should your own personal road appear all uphill right now this message may appeal to you. NJW

http://www.bluemountain.com/view.pd?i=140370355&m=1932&source=bma999
http://www.bluemountain.com/view.pd?i=140342918&m=1932&rr=y&source=bma999

 

[ArtVandalay]

FlexO,

Dang man, what happened to you? You're on a Flex rampage today! Here's what I see, assuming you are a family of 3, make captain in year 3 AND work 16 day schedule:

OVER A 14 YEAR PERIOD:

Total days worked per yr:
FLEXJET: 208
NETJET: 184

Total wages earned:
FLEXJET: $1,162,518
NETJET: $1,389,310

Insurance Cost:
FLEXJET: $32,760
NETJET: $0

Vacation Days per year LESS THAN NETJETS:
YEARS 1-5: 16X5= 80
YEARS 5-10: 14X5= 70
YEARS 10-20: 22X5= 110
TOTAL LOSS OVER 14 YEARS: 260 DAYS

PAID HOLIDAYS:
FLEXJET: NONE
NETJET: ALL

CREWMEAL SELECTIONS:
FLEXJET: NO
NETJET: YES

Someone tell me how I can convince ANYONE to come to work at Flexjet?

FLEXJET PILOTS: GO TO THE IBT WEBSITE AND SEND IN YOUR CARDS NOW

 

[knowone]

Don't let the NJA pilots see this, they think they have it so rough

 

[Hogprint]

It was rough...but....

Don't let the NJA pilots see this, they think they have it so rough

WE put a lot of hard work in to make it better. WE will stand behind you and support your efforts to make it better on your side of the fence. WE all paid our dues in this industry in one way shape or form.

Good luck with your efforts. As I posted on another thread, healthy frax companies across the board will help us all.

 

[gunfyter]

WE put a lot of hard work in to make it better. WE will stand behind you and support your efforts to make it better on your side of the fence. WE all paid our dues in this industry in one way shape or form.

Good luck with your efforts. As I posted on another thread, healthy frax companies across the board will help us all.

I do not think know one is a pilot anywhere.

 

[WrknStff]

FlexO,

Dang man, what happened to you? You're on a Flex rampage today! Here's what I see, assuming you are a family of 3, make captain in year 3 AND work 16 day schedule:

OVER A 14 YEAR PERIOD:

Total days worked per yr:
FLEXJET: 208
NETJET: 184

Total wages earned:
FLEXJET: $1,162,518
NETJET: $1,389,310

Insurance Cost:
FLEXJET: $32,760
NETJET: $0

Vacation Days per year LESS THAN NETJETS:
YEARS 1-5: 16X5= 80
YEARS 5-10: 14X5= 70
YEARS 10-20: 22X5= 110
TOTAL LOSS OVER 14 YEARS: 260 DAYS

PAID HOLIDAYS:
FLEXJET: NONE
NETJET: ALL

CREWMEAL SELECTIONS:
FLEXJET: NO
NETJET: YES

Someone tell me how I can convince ANYONE to come to work at Flexjet?

FLEXJET PILOTS: GO TO THE IBT WEBSITE AND SEND IN YOUR CARDS NOW

Long layover at the FBO with no cable or what?

 

[netjetwife]

I, for one, found the comparison educational and interesting. (Thanks, Art!) It shows what the industry standard is and gives the other frac pilots a clear look at their own situation. In my opinion, just reading that post is enough to make pilots send in their cards. Those in the industry are all doing essentially the same job. There shouldn't be such big disparities.


1108--CHANGING THE FRACTIONAL INDUSTRY, A COMPANY AT A TIME

 

[Capt. JD]

NetJets vers FlexJet

Do SIC get type-ratings on their certificate's at Flex?
How does the scheduling work at Flex?
At NetJets it clear to me: 7 on - 7 off
But at Flex you got the number of days a year you work?
Capt: 221, 208, 195
F/O: 214, 202, 195
http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/fractional/flexjet-20050307107.htm
How does that work into a weekly or monthly schedule?
Art V. is flex not the place to be?
"Someone tell me how I can convince ANYONE to come to work at Flexjet?"

FlexO,

Dang man, what happened to you? You're on a Flex rampage today! Here's what I see, assuming you are a family of 3, make captain in year 3 AND work 16 day schedule:

OVER A 14 YEAR PERIOD:

Total days worked per yr:
FLEXJET: 208
NETJET: 184

Total wages earned:
FLEXJET: $1,162,518
NETJET: $1,389,310

Insurance Cost:
FLEXJET: $32,760
NETJET: $0

Vacation Days per year LESS THAN NETJETS:
YEARS 1-5: 16X5= 80
YEARS 5-10: 14X5= 70
YEARS 10-20: 22X5= 110
TOTAL LOSS OVER 14 YEARS: 260 DAYS

PAID HOLIDAYS:
FLEXJET: NONE
NETJET: ALL

CREWMEAL SELECTIONS:
FLEXJET: NO
NETJET: YES

Someone tell me how I can convince ANYONE to come to work at Flexjet?

FLEXJET PILOTS: GO TO THE IBT WEBSITE AND SEND IN YOUR CARDS NOW

 

[finnjl]

you guys should be a regional airline FO.....what is a crew meal? I have never heard of one....Coming from a regional as a FO to a Fractional is a drastic improvement. If things work maybe my family will be off of food stamps.....I will know in two weeks.

 

[ArtVandalay]

Of course everything is always relative finnjl. I mean, I'm rich compared to some people.

CAPT JD: Flexjet isn't a "bad" place, its that netjets is just a better deal. That airlinpilotcentral site isn't entirely accurate. As of May 1, we are guaranteed 16 days a month pay in 13 bid periods. That is 208 days.

 

[netjetwife]

Finnjl, the regional industry is a mess, as well. The fact that pilots can qualify for govt assistance is a little known (to the public) but deplorable fact. You guys need to take a stand, too. Best of luck to you and your family. I hope things work out for you.
NJW

 

[gunfyter]

After we complete our operations in the Fractionals ... we plan to infiltrate and Strong unionize the Regionals...

 

[Diesel]

thank god thats tounge in cheek

 

[gunfyter]

thank god thats tounge in cheek

I was thinking we would start with MESA

 

[Diesel]

well you are definetly starting at the bottom

 

[netjetwife]

I fully support that idea!

Regional pilots/families have it as bad as Fractional pilots/families.
None of it is right and I think that all concerned should speak out.

 

[Diesel]

ummm no. Let them fight amongst themselves.

There will allways be some company trying to fill a 300hr wonder job.

 

[Fozzy]

You have to love the "Will fly for food" mentality.

:uzi:

 

[netjetwife]

What about those in the group that don't feel that way? Perhaps they're the "silent majority" that would begin to speak out if they were aware just how many shared their viewpoint? I know that 1108 has benefited from the efforts of those , like my husband, that believe in fighting for what is right. Apathy and bad leadership had taken a terrible toll until SU stepped up to lead the NJ pilots. Any similar group in another industry, especially those faced with the same problems, is deserving of our support/encouragement. Remember that deserving actually means they have already earned it.

PILOTS ARE PROFESSIONALS AND SHOULD BE COMPENSATED/TREATED AS SUCH

Best Wishes to all who are working toward that goal!
NJW