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Launchpad said:
Anyone made the switch? Just wondering if it's worth the switch.

I use both Firefox and IE as well as a few others. Both IE and Firefox have their advantages, and I would recommend using both on your machine.

First of all, with IE, it is built into your OS and integrates well with other applications such as Office and others. Also, IE is still the most popular browser showing up on about 90% of all computers. This means that many sites, especially those of smaller websites, will work a lot better than Firefox simply because the sites designer only used IE.

As for Firefox, its advantages are small size, and a descent pop-up blocker. It does, however, suffer from some strange quircks especially with CSS and is more difficult to use on a computer with more than one user.

Either way, what I might suggest is try Firefox and see what you think yourself. If you like it, use it. Also keep IE on your computer though. That way if you hit a site or something else that doesn't work on Firefox you'll still have your backup.
 
Netscape is based on Mozilla. For some reason Mozilla got rid of Netscape.
They then developed Firefox. I use them both. No IE except where necessary(which ain't often). Netscape has everything that Firefox does, only more options. I like it better, but either one of them is waaaaay better than IE.
 
Netscape is based on Mozilla. For some reason Mozilla got rid of Netscape.
They then developed Firefox. I use them both. No IE except where necessary(which ain't often). Netscape has everything that Firefox does, only more options. I like it better, but either one of them is waaaaay better than IE. The words have been running together on Netscape, Mozilla, and IE.
 
ATR-DRIVR said:
Have been using Firefox for about 6 months and it seems a bit slower than IE and alot of the pages do not load any pics. Homepage or news pages.
Ideas?
Maybe you're running the pre-release beta. Try going to www.mozilla.org and downloading Version 1.0.
 
NoahWerka said:
Netscape is based on Mozilla. For some reason Mozilla got rid of Netscape.
They then developed Firefox. I use them both. No IE except where necessary(which ain't often). Netscape has everything that Firefox does, only more options. I like it better, but either one of them is waaaaay better than IE. The words have been running together on Netscape, Mozilla, and IE.

err, Netscape is based on Mozilla (at least version 7.x). Netscape went out of business and AOL bought (or merged with) netscape.
 
Actually AOL bought netscape around version 5 or so. AOL wanted todevelope some browser to access outside of it's own network. AOL paidbig bucks for netscape.

Well AOL wasn't unable to do what they wanted w/ it. So AOL gave itback to mozilla. mozilla could not expand netscape any further so theydeveloped Firefox. I picked it up about a week ago. It is great.

I have used netscape, & in fact I still use netscape at times.

As for the space running together. I noticed it 3-4 weeks ago. I don't have a clue what it is.

Has anyone used thunderbird yet. I believe it is still in beta trial's but wondering if anyone has tried it.
 
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Thunderbird

cessna_driver2 said:
Has anyone used thunderbird yet. I believe it is still in beta trial's but wondering if anyone has tried it.
I tried it several months ago. It's an alright e-mail client. I don't recall it being especially extraordinary.
 
I recently switched to it after years with OE. I like OE's layout & presentation of images etc. I just don't like its security lapses. Now that Thunderbird can be configured using a plugin to have the addresses permanently displayed, and does a good job of importing OE address books & emails, I switched. I also wanted Thunderbird as a convenient way to convert my email files to a format that's useable under Linux.
 
Thunderbirds Junk mail filters are actually quite good when used with or without a server side e-mail spam filter.

We have been quite impressed with it and have ditched Outlook and Outlook Express entirely.

Peter
 
Free at last

got tired of the frozen screens, pop-ups, and slow response. AND tired of the spyware scans with 2 or 3 different products. Finally loaded Firefox. So far so good.

My computer is not quite the POS I thought it was. Due for a new one, but with Firefox it's still useable.
 
There are some optimized versions of Firefox out there, that provide enhanced security, stability, and speed.

I use the version from http://www.moox.ws

That site has various versions, each one designed to exploit features of particular processors and/or instruction sets and is thus limited in its compatibility with other processors
 
Microsoft unveils security features in new Windows release
Associated Press
April 25, 2005 WINDOWS0426

SAN JOSE, Calif. -— Microsoft Corp.'s plan to hardwire computer security into a silicon chip rather than relying on software alone will make its debut in the next release of the Windows PC operating system that will ship late next year.
The technology, to be described by Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates during a speech in Seattle today, will protect the startup of PCs equipped with a security chip and ensure that sensitive files aren't accessible when someone tries to boot the computer using a portable hard drive or floppy disk.

Gates also was expected to showcase other features of the frequently delayed operating system code-named Longhorn, including improved graphics that support see-through windows, better ways to visualize data, more sensible file organization and faster searching.

During his keynote at the Windows Hardware Engineering Conference, Gates was expected to declare that Longhorn will be Microsoft's most secure operating system ever.

It's also the first to implement the company's vision of boosting security by placing cryptographic keys in silicon chips rather than storing them as data on a hard drive. It's much more difficult to crack a chip than it is a program.
The initiative — once code-named Palladium but later called the Next Generation Secure Computing Base, or NGSCB — was announced in 2002 and was quickly attacked by privacy advocates, Microsoft critics and others as a mechanism for taking control of PCs from their owners.

Some claimed it would enable strict copyright protection schemes for music, movies and software. It also could restrict the tinkering that has driven computer industry innovation over the years, they said.

But the first NGSCB product — secure startup — isn't expected to be as controversial as chip-based rights management. Microsoft, however, has not said how else Longhorn might interact with the chip.

Neil Charney, director of product management in Microsoft's Windows group, said the feature is most likely to be used by business computers, especially in laptops that store sensitive data that could come back to haunt companies after a theft.

A number of companies, including Microsoft, are working together to beef up security using a combination of hardware and software. NGSCB is just one iteration, though it's likely to have the most impact given Microsoft's dominance.

Some PC vendors, including IBM Corp. and Hewlett-Packard Co., have been offering PCs with security chips for years. Today, HP announced it will support Longhorn's implementation on some of its business computers and workstations.
Gates also was expected to unveil other security enhancements in Longhorn, including user accounts that don't always have the highest privileges but are flexible enough to allow software installation. Other operating systems such as Linux and Mac OS X support such accounts by prompting for an administrator's password when needed.

Longhorn also will include a number of visual improvements such as icons that show content from the documents they represent. The software also is expected to introduce more intuitive ways of organizing files as well as faster searching.

Charney said the features will work even without a new file system that was originally scheduled to ship with Longhorn. The updated file system, called WinFS, is now slated to be available in a preview release when the final version of Longhorn is shipped in late 2006
 
I upgraded to it little over a month or so ago, and I've never looked back. I like to surf multiple pages at once (like on here), and it's built in "tabbing" feature is worth the upgrade alone!

Check it out, I've only found one site so far that it didn't work with, and even at that it was no big deal!
 
jarhead said:
Longhorn also will include a number of visual improvements such as icons that show content from the documents they represent. The software also is expected to introduce more intuitive ways of organizing files as well as faster searching....when the final version of Longhorn is shipped in late 2006.

They hope. :D It was originally supposed to ship in early 2005, but they had to keep stripping out features (like WinFS) to make any kind of reasonable release date, and it's STILL looking like what's left of the upgrade is still over a year and a half away.

Of course, Apple's new system is already shipping, and will be available in retail stores on Friday. People are already receiving their copies in the mail from pre-orders. Check it out:

http://www.apple.com/macosx/

The searching technology is phenomenal, along with many other features that MS hopes will be in Longhorn when they finally finish it. :D


And to keep it on topic, yes, it runs Firefox very well.
 
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I also, thanks to a fellow flightinfo dude, have made the switch to Firefox. I love it. The ONLY problem I've encountered is the inability to cut and paste on this site using it. I haven't figured that out yet, but it's worth that minor inconvenience. Heck, I'm wearing a muzzle on this message board half the time anyway .
 
Hugh Jorgan said:
The ONLY problem I've encountered is the inability to cut and paste on this site using it. .

With Firefox I highlight, right-click (Copy), then on the top menu bar I click edit then paste. Seems to work. I'm really shouldn't be giving advice on computer tech. I'm the hunt, peck and smack type.
 
The problem for me is that when I go to do the "paste" function, it isn't an option. It doesn't happen anywere else, just on flightinfo.
 

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