FFDO Program Training

[kmox29]

Since 9/11, I've had two FAM's on my flights. I know my job as a pilot is to fly from A to B. Remember the FAA's "Common Strategy"? Well, that didn't work out too well for some of us crewmwmbers and passengers on 9/11. I guess if the new game is to gain access to the flight deck and slit my throat, I'm gonna use all available means to stop that.

Why must some people harp on others about a personal choice? Everyone has an opinion on the FFDO program. If you agree with it, you'll probably go through taining. If you don't agree with it, you'll skip training. However, some of you in the latter group, please remember that NOT ALL FFDOs wear 10 gallon cowboy hats and worship the NRA. Stop generalizing. A lot of us are normal pilots with families and live normal non-militia lives.

 

[atrdriver]

We dog you because the government already has a program, they're called air marshalls. Those are paid positions. For free, you lessen the government's burden and increase yours. My job is to fly an airplane from a to b with the door closed, the air marshalls shoot the bad person. Works for me.

I also have had 2 legs with air marshalls since 9/11. Just an estimate, cause I don't want to add them up, but I have flown about 2,800 legs since 9/11. Not very good odds that I will have someone else to assist me in the back, huh? I'm not an FFDO, but I certainly respect every person who has volunteered their time, money, and effort to become one.

 

[Simon Says]

Kmox,
No one is dogging the FFDO program. We are just dogging the tool that thinks he is all high and mighty for being a FFDO. I could care less about someone that wants to be in the program. What I do care about is the vomit coming out of AV8tors mouth.

He really does make the rest of you look bad.

 

[kmox29]

Kmox,
What I do care about is the vomit coming out of AV8tors mouth.

He really does make the rest of you look bad.

He only makes the rest of us look bad if people are unable to differentiate between one and all.

 

[Simon Says]

He only makes the rest of us look bad if people are unable to differentiate between one and all.

ahhhh..........good point.

 

[av8tor4239]

No one is dogging the FFDO program.

?????

Why is it the majortity, and I know most will agree, of the FFDO are the power hungry, holier than though, I am special because I went through the program, I know a secret and you don't people. Give me a break folks.

Simon: You are an angry jealous person.. You contradict yourself (see example above). You are bashing the program that many people have worked hard to put in place, and for some reason you feel it is your responsiblity to cut down the people that do the job.

BEING AN FFDO IS NOT AN EGO THING... It is a responsiblity some have assumed to protect the aircraft, and our fragile industry.

Thinking you are the only one that is able to protect an aircraft. The comment about if we are being hijacked and I am not with an FFDO I might as well kiss my arse goodbye. HAHAHA.....coments like that is why we all think you are a bunch of Dorks.

Simon you have such a simple mind and thought process.... If you are hijacked and the hijackers have the intent of making your airplane into a missle, you can bet that they are EXTREMELY well trainned and armed with an assortment of weapons that our security can not detect. You underestemate the enemy...

In response to your idiodic statement above, an FFDO is just another piece of safety equipment.. IT IS THAT SIMPLE... Dont bring a knife (or crash axe) to a gun fight.

 

[crzepilot]

IT IS THAT SIMPLE... Dont bring a knife (or crash axe) to a gun fight.

how did other people onboard, get a gun onboard, a flight crew can't even bring nail clippers onboard.

 

[av8tor4239]

guns come in many shapes and sizes...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,113259,00.html

 

[FlyingFerris]

how did other people onboard, get a gun onboard, a flight crew can't even bring nail clippers onboard.

Yeah, and no one would ever drive 3 airplanes into office buildings either, getting arround grandma or high school drop out TSA agents is pretty rough.

 

[FN FAL]

I heard training involves getin' hitched with your sister and wearing a cowboy hat. Pray to the NRA or Heston at night.

If you can't get through the door, why do I need a gun?

One, what does the FFDO program or any of it's problems or benefits, have anything to do with the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution, the NRA or Charley Heston?

In specific, the FFDO program has absolutely nothing in common with the citizen's right to keep and bear arms...the "O" in FFDO, means that they are acting in official capacity as an official of the government. When they pack their guns, they are not doing it as citizens.

Two, can't get through the door? Look up the word "resistant"...like when it is being used in a sentance to describe a "bullet resistant" door.

 

[FN FAL]

how did other people onboard, get a gun onboard, a flight crew can't even bring nail clippers onboard.

you type like an Arab Just kidding...

Haven't you read the news about airline employees getting busted...and I'm talking about several stories and a lot of people...for running a drug smuggling operation on their airline?

If you can smuggle large quantities of drugs on an airliner and get them into the country, how hard would it be for rampies to get a gun aboard an airliner? I don't know, but I would guess that the risk is great enough that they armed FFDO's and put them in the cocpit.