Fellow pilot rat what to do?

[siucavflight]

Flybywire, this is not a true story.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

It couldn't have been MCDU. He's only an f/o at GIA.

 

[s3jetman]

Sorry i have been away for a while. Yes this according to the captain that got fired is what happend. The jumpseater i have not talked to yet, but plan to find out his side of story. I am not sure if I will slander his name, I just cant see myself doing that to a fellow pilot. but let it be known that this will get around and somebody may post it here. This is not flame bait. Yes the captain had some diffences wth company but for the most part a good guy and good pilot. I will defently do some more research and get back to everyone. If i find out 100% what happend before i say much more.

 

[buscap]

No union on the property either, I bet.

 

[urflyingme?!]

What a dick. Kick his ass

 

[Midnight Flyer]

I guess the jumpseater was junior to the Captain that was fired. Personally, I call BS on the whole thing, it’s sounds very fishy and I don’t know if I buy it...but, for the sake of discussion....If the jumpseater was just jumpseating in the cockpit, then how can he possible see ice on the wing if he didn’t do the walkaround and just came down the jetbridge and got on board. A jumpseater is a crewmember, so as any crewmember would do, he/she should speak up if you see anything that the crew missed or in this case, if you see that the aircraft is not properly deiced. The jumpseater is an a$$hole. If he/she was so worried about the aircraft not being deiced for safety reasons, then why did he/she go ahead and ride on the flight. Looks to me that that pilot just wanted to move up in seniority. He’s scum and a rat. Like LowlyPropCapt said, the jumpseater should be fired too, then, for not speaking up since he’s a crewmember; he’s as “guilty” as the Capt.
Besides, as we all know, being a jumpseater is a privilege, not a right. This guy should consider himself lucky he got on. Just get on, close your eyes, take a nap and shut UP!! Before a jumpseater starts accusing the crew of stuff, they better be 100% sure!!

 

[bailout]

How can the JS guy PROVE that there was actually snow on the wing? His word against the CPT, something aint right.

 

[Goose Egg]

Yeah, but it cost him one of his wives.

Weak.

 

[TheInsider]

Here is he deal.

A pilot for our company was jumpseating and I guess he saw some snow on the wing. This pilot did not let the captain know that he had concerns. Maybe the capt never saw the snow, I don’t know. Then this jumpseater, same company, went home wrote a letter to management saying the captain did not deice, thus resulting in firing of the Captain. Jumpseater in my opinion who was a captain should of said something to the flying captain if he was that worried. Not go an rat out to mgt. later. How should we treat this fellow pilot in the company I mean that goes against all Pilot Code

What would you do?

Why do you need the advise of others? Treat him the way you think he should be treated, if you have the ball$ that is.

 

[BigPappa]

Come on, somebody has got to know this guy's initials and airline where he works. He is as guilty as the Capt. who got fired; that is if he got fired over this particular situation.

 

[BOHICAgain]

Sj3 who got fired initials please.

Was the Gulfstream Captain a lifer or relativity new CA

How bout the A whole?

 

[Papa Woody]

Weak.

Yeah, but still breathing!

 

[Goose Egg]

Yeah, but still breathing!

Ok, lame then. Your lame attempt at humor was lame.

 

[BoilerUP]

Ok, lame then. Your lame attempt at humor was lame.

I LOL'd...

You might take yourself and the company you work for a little less seriously...

 

[Daytonaflyer]

Ah yes, the dreaded caribbean icing experience; almost enough accumulation to see it with the naked eye. And it sticks for a full 5 minutes. Go Gulfsream!

 

[EBE]

Here's a thought....

What if the said jumpseater did notify the crew about snow on the wing and the crew didn't do anything about it. In otherwords, disregard of another crewmembers identification of snow on the wing (safety of flight issue).

What if your family rides on that airline? How would you deal with this situation if you were in jumpseaters shoes. Would you let it go? I know that I've seen some real dumb sh*t out on the line that has had me doubtful of safety. So...Let's hear the wisdom.

 

[Goose Egg]

You might take yourself and the company you work for a little less seriously...

Sorry if I'm coming across that way. I'm really a pretty mellow guy. You can say what you want about me and especially my company (heaven knows I've been doing that a bit myself lately). I'll generally take it in pretty good humor. When people start throwing in misconceptions about religion, mine in particular, I gotta draw the line somewhere. I mean, I love a good joke, more than most people I think. And it's not like I ripped him a new arshole or anything. I just said that his attempt at humor was weak and lame... Which it was. I could break down why it was weak and lame, but honestly, I just don't have the energy.

I mean, if you are going to intolerantly and ignorantly ridicule religion, at least come up with something original. I'm guessing that Mr. Woody isn't initiated enough to do that. Granted, I've pretty much 'heard 'em all,' so my standards are pretty high.

-Goose

Edit: The best Mormon jokes are usually from the inside. You're not "one of us" until you can throw down a good green Jell-O joke. I'm waiting.

 

[Flybywire44]

Flybywire, this is not a true story.

good.

 

[CFI2766]

Is there a j/s in a 1900?

 

[Alltheway]

Cabin crew face trial after speaking up about icing on the wing
"Three US Airways flight attendants are facing a law suit filed by their pilot collegue demanding 2 million US$ in compensation for defamation, after they spoke up before departure on Jan 24th 2003, when they noticed ice accumulation on the wings of their airplane, which was to perform flight America West HP-851 from Calgary,AB (Canada) to Phoenix,AZ (USA). It took the common effort of all three flight attendants and three attempts, before the flight crew unwillingly agreed to de-ice the airplane. The airplane reached Phoenix on time and without incident.

The flight attendants reported the case to the FAA, which dropped proceedings against the pilots in 2006 stating, that they couldn't substantiate the allegations even though that doesn't mean, that they wouldn't believe the flight attendants. The first officer, put in charge by the captain to decide about de-icing, hired an attorney to represent him before the FAA, which cost him around 21000 US$. The first officer filed a law suit requesting 2 million US$ from the flight attendants in 2006.

US Airways let the flight attendants know, that they are on their own for that law suit, and wouldn't carry the bills for legal representation, even though they were on duty and following required crew cooperation procedures to ensure safety of flight.

Unknown to the flight attendants, Calgary Airport had filed an irregularity report as well, as ground staff had observed contamination of the wings and approached the flight crew asking, whether de-icing would be needed and received a blunt no.

The first officer admitted in a court deposition into the trial against the flight attendants, that there was frost on the wings of the aircraft indeed, but denied, that they were approached by the flight attendants until after having pushed back.