Fellow pilot rat what to do?

[CALRepublic]

I don't believe this story, (I'm sorry). I've seen pilots turn in others for diferent reasons (execpt drinking), I've never seen a guy get fired over something somelse said, NEVER.

1- Management fired someone over not de-icing?? BS

2-Management believed the jumpsitter entirely, and fired this guy?? yeah right

The story as it was told CANNOT BE. Something is missing, or its BS.....

 

[BoilerUP]

1- Management fired someone over not de-icing?? BS

An employee terminated due to a failure to follow company procedure, even if the circumstances are in question, is an easy way for a company trying to cut costs to reduce their work force.

When times are good and airlines are short, pilots can get away with damn near anything and not lose their job. When times are tough and airlines are fat of flight crews, people get let go for some pretty stupid sh!t.

I also can't help but think there was no union involved at this company.

(FWIW, I heard about something similar to this happening at Skywest recently, but the story I heard didn't involve a termination of any crewmembers)

 

[Papa Woody]

(FWIW, I heard about something similar to this happening at Skywest recently, but the story I heard didn't involve a termination of any crewmembers)

Yeah, but it cost him one of his wives.

 

[GuppyWN]

Here is he deal.

A pilot for our company was jumpseating and I guess he saw some snow on the wing. This pilot did not let the captain know that he had concerns. Maybe the capt never saw the snow, I don’t know. Then this jumpseater, same company, went home wrote a letter to management saying the captain did not deice, thus resulting in firing of the Captain. Jumpseater in my opinion who was a captain should of said something to the flying captain if he was that worried. Not go an rat out to mgt. later. How should we treat this fellow pilot in the company I mean that goes against all Pilot Code

What would you do?

If you are a jumpseater you are REQUIRED CREW and have a responsibility to speak up. Said jumpseater could easily have the FAA on his six.

I'm just sayin'.

Gup

 

[Salukipilot4590]

I would have told management, and then I would have called his parents.

...and thats why you kick a$$!
:laugh:

 

[siucavflight]

...and thats why you kick a$$!
:laugh:

All that good SIUC up bringing.

 

[regionaltard]

I'm pretty sure that the flame would have melted the ice.

 

[dictatortot]

This whole thing really speaks about the character of people Gulfstream is hiring. Do they hire just anyone?

 

[siucavflight]

This whole thing really speaks about the character of people Gulfstream is hiring. Do they hire just anyone?

Anyone willing to pay them!

 

[Flybywire44]

You need to make sure everyone knows this story. You should be posting his name on the internet. He earned the right to be black balled.

 

[siucavflight]

Flybywire, this is not a true story.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

It couldn't have been MCDU. He's only an f/o at GIA.

 

[s3jetman]

Sorry i have been away for a while. Yes this according to the captain that got fired is what happend. The jumpseater i have not talked to yet, but plan to find out his side of story. I am not sure if I will slander his name, I just cant see myself doing that to a fellow pilot. but let it be known that this will get around and somebody may post it here. This is not flame bait. Yes the captain had some diffences wth company but for the most part a good guy and good pilot. I will defently do some more research and get back to everyone. If i find out 100% what happend before i say much more.

 

[buscap]

No union on the property either, I bet.

 

[urflyingme?!]

What a dick. Kick his ass

 

[Midnight Flyer]

I guess the jumpseater was junior to the Captain that was fired. Personally, I call BS on the whole thing, it’s sounds very fishy and I don’t know if I buy it...but, for the sake of discussion....If the jumpseater was just jumpseating in the cockpit, then how can he possible see ice on the wing if he didn’t do the walkaround and just came down the jetbridge and got on board. A jumpseater is a crewmember, so as any crewmember would do, he/she should speak up if you see anything that the crew missed or in this case, if you see that the aircraft is not properly deiced. The jumpseater is an a$$hole. If he/she was so worried about the aircraft not being deiced for safety reasons, then why did he/she go ahead and ride on the flight. Looks to me that that pilot just wanted to move up in seniority. He’s scum and a rat. Like LowlyPropCapt said, the jumpseater should be fired too, then, for not speaking up since he’s a crewmember; he’s as “guilty” as the Capt.
Besides, as we all know, being a jumpseater is a privilege, not a right. This guy should consider himself lucky he got on. Just get on, close your eyes, take a nap and shut UP!! Before a jumpseater starts accusing the crew of stuff, they better be 100% sure!!

 

[bailout]

How can the JS guy PROVE that there was actually snow on the wing? His word against the CPT, something aint right.

 

[Goose Egg]

Yeah, but it cost him one of his wives.

Weak.

 

[TheInsider]

Here is he deal.

A pilot for our company was jumpseating and I guess he saw some snow on the wing. This pilot did not let the captain know that he had concerns. Maybe the capt never saw the snow, I don’t know. Then this jumpseater, same company, went home wrote a letter to management saying the captain did not deice, thus resulting in firing of the Captain. Jumpseater in my opinion who was a captain should of said something to the flying captain if he was that worried. Not go an rat out to mgt. later. How should we treat this fellow pilot in the company I mean that goes against all Pilot Code

What would you do?

Why do you need the advise of others? Treat him the way you think he should be treated, if you have the ball$ that is.

 

[BigPappa]

Come on, somebody has got to know this guy's initials and airline where he works. He is as guilty as the Capt. who got fired; that is if he got fired over this particular situation.