fedex jumpseats

[hawg2hawk]

What's the latest with fedex's jumpseat policy for other 121 and 135 companies?
How about as a fedex guy? Is there an ID75 reciprocal agreement with any of the other carriers?

 

[C-5 MEM]

I talked with a FEDEX pilot riding on our jet last month. They said its up to managment, then its said they will open off ling JS when CASS is up at running.
I know alot of INDY drivers are going to stop allowing JS from FEDEX. One of our Captains told me that he understands its not the individual pilot at Fed, but its in the agreement about receip JS procedures.
I think once CASS is up and running and they dont allow JS, we should not honor them on our flight

 

[dojetdriver]

I talked with a FEDEX pilot riding on our jet last month. They said its up to managment, then its said they will open off ling JS when CASS is up at running.
I know alot of INDY drivers are going to stop allowing JS from FEDEX. One of our Captains told me that he understands its not the individual pilot at Fed, but its in the agreement about receip JS procedures.
I think once CASS is up and running and they dont allow JS, we should not honor them on our flight

Um, I seriously doubt this to be the case. My brothers sisters nephews girlfriend told me that is not our policy at INDY. I would have to say we have one of the best JS reps, he works his a$$ of to secure reciprical agreements with whoever he can.

Besides, we can't ride on AA or CAL international, why, becasue we can't reciprocate international. That in no way means that we deny CAL or AA pilots and ride when they come on our plane. We serve markets that they don't, does that mean we should deny them a ride because they can't reciprocate with us because they DON'T serve that market, NO.

Talk trash about managent, union, poilitics, whatever, but leave hearsay about a certain airline denying guys rides on their JS off the frigin board.

 

[C-5 MEM]

The last time I checked. The captain has the right to refuse any jump seater no matter what airline. For example. In the FOM we have an agreement for JET BLUE to jump seat. The captain can deny him/her the right to jump seat. I was refused one time by an United Airlines captain just because we broke ties with them.

The statement that I made was this. Fedex has been jump seating on us for some time now. We do not have jump seating with Fedex. ALPA has stated in the past that a receiprical agreement for jump seating must be met.
Recently Delta had agreement with a cargo company called Kitty Hawk.
A couple of years ago Kitty Hawk dropped its agreement for Delta to jump seat. Since there was not a receiprical agreement Delta stopped its jump seating with Kitty Hawk.

By the way. Do you work at Indy or does your girlfriends sister?

 

[dojetdriver]

Darn, no delete feature, see below

 

[dojetdriver]

I'm not trying to get into a pi$$ing contest with you.

You are right, the CA has final authority to deny anybody the JS on his airplane, and yes, I have been a victim of this from a specific carrier when we broke ties with them as well. And yes, he can be a total child and start a JS war between two carriers if he so chooses. But I gaurantee you this, if we INDY guys start denying FedEX guys a ride even though they are on our list and our JS rep hears about it, there will more that likley be a swift response from him.

I take it you are an Indy pilot, I am to. Maybe you remember the memo BR AND the UAL JS rep put together to preclude the unprofessional actions between both groups of denying a JS ride to a carrier who is on the list of approved carriers when I-Air was announced?

FedEx gets CASS, maybe we get CASS (if we are still around), who's to say they won't allow us on their JS because some CA(s) who denied their pilots screwed it up for us? It doesn't do anybody any good to deny a ride based soley on the fact they have an agreement with us and we don't with them. I'll bet that if any FedEx pilot had direct control over this issue, they would change it in a second as well as welcome us on their planes like we welcome them.

If ANY FedEx guy gets denied a ride on Indy, get the CA's name (if you can), flight number and date and contact your JS rep.

Dojetdriver, furlough coming in the springtime

 

[FNG_that's me]

I know alot of INDY drivers are going to stop allowing JS from FEDEX. One of our Captains told me that he understands its not the individual pilot at Fed, but its in the agreement about receip JS procedures.

I think once CASS is up and running and they dont allow JS, we should not honor them on our flight

I don't pretend to know much about the JS programs, but I do know that this is not the answer. Whatever happened to Do Unto Others...?

These are tough times; we need not make them tougher on ourselves. I'm sure the guys at Federal would be happy to open the JS up to others, doesn't really cost them anything and would probably save them lots of explanations.

If I denied a FedEx guy a JS just on spite I'd be worried that my name would end up on a list somewhere, like the hiring department...come to think of it, maybe they're already on the no-list there and that's why they want to deny the JS privilege. And the last thing I want is to be associated in any way with some jack-knuckle who acts this way.

Let's play nice, especially when it doesn't cost us anything out of our own pockets.

 

[J Dawg]

To my fellow FLYi pilots thinking of denying the jumpseat to FedEx pilots-

Please remember that FedEx does offer an interline agreement with us in the form of a 75% discount for their shipping services. This is a great benefit to us.

 

[Beertini]

This is purely anecdotal, but there exists a good-sized group of Purple People that do not offline JS simply because of the embarrassment of not being able to reciprocate for our flying brethren.

 

[T-Gates]

The fact that FedEx cannot reciprocate is not the pilots fault, the blame lays solely on Management. If I remember right, the FedEx pilots have had a grievance filed on this very matter for almost 3 years now. Denying FedEx pilots on the jumpseat will not solve anything. All it will do is make life harder for those trying to commute to work or get home. If FedEx pilots start getting denied, management won't care.

Also, as said above, they give most carriers a 75% interline discount on shipping. That is quite a cut rate, think about that next time you even think of denying a FedEx guy.

Keep the personal politics out of the jumpseat, if the guys have an agreement and they are cordial, give them a ride.