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Denying the "Freight Dogs" the jumpseat is about as petty low as one can get. Lower than whale $hit. Spite is for 15 year old drama queens.

Here is a six step process to becomming a professional air line Capt.

Understanding that....

1. FedEx managment is using the jumpseat as a negotiating tool. If YOUR company was using something against you and your pilot group, wouldn't you enjoy and even crave the support of your fellow pilots, including pilots from other companies?

2. The "Dogs" maybe the only pilot group to "save" this pilot profession. They are the ones who are prospering right now and THEY will negotiate the leading contracts that we hope to use in 5-10 years.

3. The more flight crew members you have on board, the easier the emergency and/or evacuation goes and the better you look as Capt.

4. Only ATA members will get CASS initially. Fedex is a member. Indy Air and other similar mom and pop outfits are not. The tables will be turned... Now what?

5. The FedEx shipping discount has nothing to do with the jumpseat. The FedEx pilots cannot control an interline agreement that extends to all employees from both companies.

6. Instead of being a jumpseat Nazi ("No Jumpseat for YOU!") why don't you invite these gentlemen on board and talk with them for five minutes. (have your FO load the FMS?) Ask him what is going on at FedEx/UPS. Get educated on the issue. They may be tired as he1l and look worse than your father in law on jetlag, but they'll share some info. Then tell your FA to treat them like Kings cause they're your fellow pilots and its the right thing to do. (and if your FA says He1l no, then shame on you for not treating your FA right so she is happy to take care of your fellow pilots for you...)

As a Captain extending jumpseat privlidges it is better to be a positive influence on our profession than a tool. Believing that you are a one man army, vigilante types like Charles Bronsen, Schwarzenegger and Rambo all rolled up into one, so you can deny jumpseats to fellow pilots cause of a recipcricol definition is like two 8 year olds yelling at each other in the playground screaming "I said 'Screw you first'". Great, a Mexican stand off..... Now what!?

The Freight Dogs aren't giggling at each other thinking they are gaming the system at your expense. They know the deal. And many of them feel awkward asking for the jumpseat cause they just want to get home and see thier family, but they're gun shy of running into a babbling lunatic Capt that is going to give them a vitrol filled Dennis Miller rant about issues he himself doesn't understand. :confused:

Justifying the denial of a Freight Dog with a self righteous spin goes like this.... "So you're with FedEx. Well, I am denying you the j/s for your own good and the good of the profession. Cause if I don't deny you and other FedEx/UPS types then this whole jumpseat thing will never get fixed." WOW! Another airline pax Capt that is going to fix the problem single handedly.

The way jumpseats agreements get done is on the negotiating table, the dinner table and at the MEC offices. Not rogue Capts, exercising thier absolute power, thinking they are making a difference. :rolleyes:

And you will be contributing to solving the issue, not convincing yourself that a pseudo-instantaneous-self-gratifying j/s denial is effecting change via a mis-informed short-term pain-for-long-term-gain modus operandi. :rolleyes:

Instead why not be a positive influence on our profession. Keep the real vibes going. The good will.

We need as much fellowship as we can get these days.
 
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Rez

All very noble. I truly believe it is your management driving the issue. That said, I'm left behind while you go. How much more emphasis would be placed on the issue if the JS was no longer available as opposed to the somewhat comfortable fallback of knowing it is available? Just a question.

"Indy Air and other similar mom and pop outfits"

Certainly a way to endear yourself and further your cause of continued JS privileges on said airlines.
 
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May I also point out that I deadhead 2 to 3 times a month on pax carriers.

Since I "deviate" and book my own flights, I always (when available) fly on the carrier I jumpseat the most on (Airlink). These days I know business is important.

How much more emphasis would be placed on the issue if the JS was no longer available

None. They guys who commute care alot, the guys that don't (most of them) don't care so much.

Check into your airline history. There were periods in the 70's-90's when quite a few big carriers (NWA, DAL, etc...) didn't have jumpseat for YEARS. But the others carried them anyway. They knew how hard it was to get JS rights sometimes.

We are in talks. It takes time. JS will cost us money - and I'm glad to bargain for it. If we sign a contract without offline jumpseating, feel free to deny us 100%. Until then thanks for your fraternalism.
 
REZ Disclaimer.....

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Rez

All very noble. I truly believe it is your management driving the issue. That said, I'm left behind while you go. How much more emphasis would be placed on the issue if the JS was no longer available as opposed to the somewhat comfortable fallback of knowing it is available? Just a question.

"Indy Air and other similar mom and pop outfits"

Certainly a way to endear yourself and further your cause of continued JS privileges on said airlines.

I'm not a FX or freight dog pilot.....:eek:

Indy actually.....:) (that means I can call my airline Mom and Pop, Mickey Mouse...etc... And with our loads, I can take up to 50 Freight Dogs as jumpseaters..... C'mon boyz!!!)

If the FX pilots don't get the jumpseat back, again, what is the issue....?

I was disapointed the Delta pilots didn't get unlimited in their earth shattering concessions.... But that IS difficult in that, to get unlimited the DAL guys have to get FREE travel for ALL Delta employees. Gate agents going ape-$hit when off line pilots can ride for free on THIER airline....when they have to pay even $5. But I don't know the real deal. Any Deltoids out there got info...??

Back to Fred Smith..... If FX doesn't get the jumpseat, why? Just don't assume that the FX pilots decided to game the system....and take for granted the fact they can still jump on us....

I just don't turn away a fellow pilot, I can always use another crew member, plus I let issues get solved at the leadership level....

It is not about me me me.

"What is in it for me? Can I jumpseat on you? No! Ok then you can't j/s with me. Sorry...Cya later Freight doggie.... bye bye"

C'mon guys we are bigger than this... Better than this....

Once again, grey. Not black and white. Certianly not a one man army issue.
 
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I guess I fail to get it. I ask for JS privileges to be reciprocated and I'm the bad guy. You need not worry, my carrier has unlimited JS privileges including you box types. As long as the policy is to carry you despite no recip agreement then you are welcome. The individual JS will never know how I feel about this one way affair, a smile and a handshake will be all they see.
 

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