FEDEX feeder to Mainline FEDEX

[skeeter666]

Thanks for the info....being a fedex ramper/courier for 14 years and loading more feeders and mainline than I care to remember has not helped much either......Hey, at least if I fly the ATR/feeder it looks like I work at fedex!

 

[ATRCAPT]

There is no official "flow-through" from the feeders to FEDEX. At Empire we have an "Executive Referal" program. Once you've been an F-27/ATR captain for three years our president will fill out the appropriate paperwork that is SUPPOSED to generate an interview fro you. It does not give you any advantage. We've only had one guy get called, and he was PROMPTLY turned down. He got hired at American the next month. Of course he was subsequently furloughed. We just had a FEDEX suit from Memphis in our ATR jump seat last week. He said the pilots union enforces an unofficial no hire policy against the feeder crews. He did not explain why. i told him I thought that was crap and he agreed.

 

[skeeter666]

That is real crappy.............if you could get proof, that would be a huge lawsuit!

 

[thunderworm]

i would rather get hit in the jimmy than hear that news atrcpt. not cool.

 

[TonyC]

We just had a FEDEX suit from Memphis in our ATR jump seat last week. He said the pilots union enforces an unofficial no hire policy against the feeder crews. He did not explain why. i told him I thought that was crap and he agreed.

The reason you thought it was a load of crap is it's a load of crap - - and a lie. There is no such policy. That would explain why he couldn't explain it.

I'd like to know what sort of "FEDEX suit," as you say, was allowed to jumpseat in an ATR.

 

[TIGV]

Some Fedex Feeder management non pilots and some Fedex ' Mainline ' management types are specifically listed on Empire's Jump-List, I carried quite a few ' Suites ' when I worked there, that was, however, on the F-27, I presume the same applies to the ATR.
The flowthrough, preferential interview or any such other being discriminated against may not be official policy but the stats speak for themselves, the ' Suit ' I asked indicated that although he wasn't sure he felt that it was possible that Fedex required at least 3 years of ' Feeder ' service to recoup training costs prior to considering an application to mainline.
I don't work there anymore.....my resume is on the way, need a mainline sponsor though, how about it Tony C ???

 

[TonyC]

The flowthrough, preferential interview or any such other being discriminated against may not be official policy but the stats speak for themselves, ...

Unfortunately, statistics do NOT speak for themselves. Perhaps you've heard the quip, "There are lies, there are d@mn lies, and then there are statisitcs."

You might consider, as you pore over those numbers before you (you do have the statistics, right?) the qualifications of the pilots in the group. You should also consider the requirements for consideration at FedEx Express. Certainly, any time flown for a FedEx feeder contributes to Total Time, but how much does it contribute to Turbine PIC? How many FedEx feeder aircraft are considered "fixed-wing jet [or] fixed wing multi-engine turbo-prop"?

... the ' Suit ' I asked indicated that although he wasn't sure he felt that it was possible that Fedex required at least 3 years of ' Feeder ' service to recoup training costs prior to considering an application to mainline.

That sounds like something a manager at a FedEx feeder would prefer. It is NOT a FedEx Express requirement. FedEx Express has no control over hiring practices at FedEx feeders.

Let me repeat, to be clear. FedEx Express has no preference towards, nor prejudice against, FedEx feeder pilots. Whether you be a FedEx feeder pilot, a passenger carrier feeder pilot, a FedEx Express courier or a FedEx Express handler, you must meet the minimum requirements in order to land an interview. The FedEx Express courier and handler have the advantage of the Internal Hiring process, but even that does no good if they don't have the minimum requirements.

Run your statistics again, please. I suggest you include only those feeder pilots that meet the hours experience requirements. You might also look at those feeder pilots that meet the experience requirements and were ALSO current employees of FedEx Express as couriers, handlers, etc. Compare those with American Eagle pilots who meet the experience requirements and are also currently employed by FedEx Express in some capacity.

Don't think it can't happen - - I know several.

.....my resume is on the way, need a mainline sponsor though, how about it Tony C ???

Have we flown together?




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[skeeter666]

Tony C- That is what I thought all along........I need a sponser now!

 

[fokkers&beer]

Remember guys, the 121 side of the feeders is less than 10% of all feeders. This is just a small group of feeder pilots, and is therefore not really represented well. It is the one side that could flow through, have you really even tried?

 

[tsky]

hmmmm

 

[tsky]

We've only had one guy get called, and he was PROMPTLY turned down. He got hired at American the next month. Of course he was subsequently

I may be wrong on this, but I heard that he had a 4 year degree from some cheezy mail order college

 

[ATRCAPT]

Tsky -

You're thinking of someone else, and yes he got his degree from the back of Rolling Stone

TonyC -

Don't kill the messenger! I'm just contributing the info I heard. Personally, I couldn't care less, FEDEX is simply not my goal.

 

[TIGV]

Have we flown together?




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Nope and not that I would recommend it, but you are welcome to hop on my ' 135 ' maintained MU-2 anytime, just PM me for the schedule, 5 legs, 6.5 a night through the Midwest

The stats I mentioned were based on 3 years at the Feeders as a 121 Capt. I know of 10 submitted resumes all meeting and in all cases exceeding the mainline hiring requirement, If I remember right the lowest time applicant had 4000 hours total ( apprx ) and the highest time was 10,000 hours ( apprx ), all had in excess of 1000 hours Turbine PIC part 121, but that was 3 years ago, no-one got called.
I did talk to a FedEx new hire at the time, he indicated his class average time was around 4000 hours total but 90 percent of his class were military, not sure if there's a connection.

Cheers.

 

[TIGV]

Ah what the heck, a Tony C sponsorship is worth the ' Bump ' right ?????

 

[blingair]

Military and/or female is the key...I talk to several mainline guys every night and I have yet to meet a non-military pilot who is not a woman. I'm sure there are some but they are the exception and not the rule.