Fdx Hiring

[twgordy]

Hey CaptainMark, I'll pour your coffee I'll even get you a bottled water from the back.....you better check the seal.

 

[CaptainMark]

no problem..but you gotta get on the bus..and i don't drink yellow water

 

[twgordy]

I'll be bypassing the light twin...but thanks anyway.

 

[sandman2122]

And that's coming from a CL-601 and Learjet guy!!!!!!!!!!!

Too funny.

 

[capt_zman]

Have to hijack here, but anybody know what this proposed "fedex crj contract" with pinnacle is all about? Is it real or just b.s.?

 

[CaptainMark]

I'll be bypassing the light twin...but thanks anyway.

yeah..he is flying the 727 heavy...loser

 

[CaptainMark]

i heard some of that from a bud a pinnacle who is in management..but he seemed to be joking about it..don't now ( WHALERIDER!!!! where are you..i spelled know wrong)....

 

[twgordy]

I'll take the loser comment....that cool....but you won't find me bragging about my monthly income on the regional forum....you dumbass!

 

[CaptainMark]

there would be no need to bragg about YOUR income...frickin newhires!

time to kill this thread...play nice

 

[seefive]

CaptainMark,

Might want to back off a bit. You're coming across like an ass, which I know you don't want to in the long run. Everyone aspires to be left seat widebody at FedEx which you've attained. That's great. I look forward to my chance and of course the pay, but you might want to double check your ego and attitude in this thread. Just my take. Cheers.
Fly safe and see you in AOC.

 

[WorldOnTime]

Omg.

Ok, jackasses. Ever heard the saying, "Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded"? Maybe you all can meet up for a slap fight outside of the AOC and call it good?

 

[CaptainMark]

CaptainMark,

Might want to back off a bit. You're coming across like an ass, which I know you don't want to in the long run. Everyone aspires to be left seat widebody at FedEx which you've attained. That's great. I look forward to my chance and of course the pay, but you might want to double check your ego and attitude in this thread. Just my take. Cheers.
Fly safe and see you in AOC.

if you see my posts..mostly in fun..never take me serious..just having fun..i have gotten numerous pvt messages stating that fact that they like the humor..everyone is too sensitive around here..later


oh yeah and if you knew me you would know i have zero ego....

 

[dojetdriver]

..everyone is too sensitive around here..later

....

Including you.

 

[B727-100QF]

CaptianMark should change his name to CaptChipOnShoulder. Lighten up a little (or switch to decaf).

He likes flying day trips so he can say "heavy" on the radio when he knows all the regionals will be on the air at the same time to hear him! Me..... I don't get to say "heavy" on the radio, I just get paid like I fly a "heavy" even though I fly a "light" jet!

 

[Attkpuke]

B727....or your heavy drivers get paid like narrow body guys...heard you guys put 1.5 Billion to the bottom line last qtr...go get em tiger!

 

[B727-100QF]

We supposedly use the 767 as the pay standard. Some like me, make out good, others on the whale and MD-11 don't make as much as they should. But both the company and the IPA like having the single pay scale although, we do have seperate A-380 pay scale in our contract proposal. Even with our almost 10yr old contract we still make more for the year than a FedEx widebody pilot does.

 

[Uppercrust]

Have to hijack here, but anybody know what this proposed "fedex crj contract" with pinnacle is all about? Is it real or just b.s.?

Hate to say it but your company is looking at cutting costs on the domestic cargo side. There's a lot RJs out there standing by. It all depends on what happens to NWA. Good luck!!

 

[Echopapa]

Hate to say it but your company is looking at cutting costs on the domestic cargo side. There's a lot RJs out there standing by. It all depends on what happens to NWA. Good luck!!

Why do you think that RJ's would save us money?

RJ's are great for passengers who don't want to connect to a hub. It allows smaller airports the ability to have Jet service and point to point service that they would otherwise be unable to have.

A FedEx package, on the other hand, doesn't mind making a 4 hour connection in Memphis, Indy, Oakland, AFW, or Newark. They also don't mind riding on prop planes. For all the hype about RJ's, props are just more fuel efficient.....slower, louder, but unarguably more efficient.

The other difference with FedEx is that we are expanding...not contracting. Economies of scale come in when you talk about flying three RJ's out a city versus one 727. It serves us no benefit to pay 6 pilots verus 3 (or two for the Bus), and then our hubs have to sustain three times as many flights, gates, load crews....etc.

The current trend, as I see it, is exactly opposite of the RJ. The Bus is taking over the 727 cities. Last month we picked up Baton Rouge....among other things.

 

[Uppercrust]

Why do you think that RJ's would save us money?

RJ's are great for passengers who don't want to connect to a hub. It allows smaller airports the ability to have Jet service and point to point service that they would otherwise be unable to have.

A FedEx package, on the other hand, doesn't mind making a 4 hour connection in Memphis, Indy, Oakland, AFW, or Newark. They also don't mind riding on prop planes. For all the hype about RJ's, props are just more fuel efficient.....slower, louder, but unarguably more efficient.

The other difference with FedEx is that we are expanding...not contracting. Economies of scale come in when you talk about flying three RJ's out a city versus one 727. It serves us no benefit to pay 6 pilots verus 3 (or two for the Bus), and then our hubs have to sustain three times as many flights, gates, load crews....etc.

The current trend, as I see it, is exactly opposite of the RJ. The Bus is taking over the 727 cities. Last month we picked up Baton Rouge....among other things.

Just a rumor I heard along with increase use of trucks. In terms of paying 6 pilots verus 3..... those pilots are RJ dudes. They get paid a lot less. Again, unsubstantiated. Probably BS. Good luck!!

 

[CaptainMark]

Even with our almost 10yr old contract we still make more for the year than a FedEx widebody pilot does.

you are so full of it your eyes are turning brown...like your uniform

 

[B727-100QF]

you are so full of it your eyes are turning brown...like your uniform

Numbers don't lie! See for yourself sometime.


UPS 12yr capt 190/hr X 75hrs/guarantee X 13 pay periods = $185,250

FedEx 15yr widebody capt 206/hr X 74hrs/guarantee X 12 pay periods = 182,928


Notice that your pay scales go out to 15 yrs vs. ours out to 12.

 

[CaptainMark]

look , we have 4 months that are 5 week months that pay close to 90 hours a month...the info on that website is WRONG...but does it really matter..i just liked the brown reference..little funny????

 

[MemTrash]

Numbers don't lie! See for yourself sometime.
UPS 12yr capt 190/hr X 75hrs/guarantee X 13 pay periods = $185,250
FedEx 15yr widebody capt 206/hr X 74hrs/guarantee X 12 pay periods = 182,928
Notice that your pay scales go out to 15 yrs vs. ours out to 12.

OK Brown Tail I just got a call from CaptainMark wanting me to post what I made last year in the right seat of the MD11. Since he is too scared to go fly it himself I guess I will jump in and I know he has gotten the water HOT. I hate to post exact numbers but I was just short of what you say your captains make. And I mean just short. Most of my flying was intl which pays a bit more but not much. Now I'm on the chick machine with CaptainMark and hating it. Not sure why the numbers you have are wrong but they are. I'd feel bad for CaptainMark if he didn't have a smokin hot wife. Man he has the life. imp:

 

[propjob27]

In all seriousness, no name calling, top end captain pay is one thing, its pretty close either way no matter how you argue it.

HOWEVER, what I like about FedEX, or to put it another way, what I dislike about UPS, is the compensation of junior crewmembers. FedEX didn't completely screw junior crewmembers the last time a contract was signed.

• year 0 to 1 UPS pay: 26 K per year (and people pick on Continentals first year pay...)
• year 0 to 1 FedEx pay: 50/hr

• year 1 to 2 UPS FO pay: 76/hr (and I don't think there are that many pilots at UPS who are in the FO seat after 1 year)
• year 1 to 2 FO FedEX widebody pay: 117/hr (and there are a LOT OF widebody FO's at FedEx with just 1 year of seniority)

• year 3-4 FO UPS pay: 92/hr
• year 3-4 FO Fedex widebody pay: 120/hr

Both UPS and FedEX are great companies. I don't think a pilot could get any luckier than to end up at either one. However, there are some serious differences in pay for junior-mid seniority crewmembers at the two companies.

I hope the UPS negotiating committee is addressing this in their current contract negotiations.

 

[CaptainMark]

UPS is awesome..and so is FDX... and hopefully the unions will finish their jobs so we can move on.....ITS ALL ABOUT THE FREIGHT!!!!

 

[seefive]

I make more than you.

Uh uhhh. I make more!!

Blah blah blah.


This is ridiculous. Grow up.

 

[B727-100QF]

From todays IPA EB hotline.........



This week we received information that the pilot contract talks at UPS rival and chief competitor Federal Express have picked up considerable steam. An agreement between Fed Ex and its pilots could come as early as next month.

 

[B727-100QF]

In all seriousness, no name calling, top end captain pay is one thing, its pretty close either way no matter how you argue it.

HOWEVER, what I like about FedEX, or to put it another way, what I dislike about UPS, is the compensation of junior crewmembers. FedEX didn't completely screw junior crewmembers the last time a contract was signed.

• year 0 to 1 UPS pay: 26 K per year (and people pick on Continentals first year pay...)
• year 0 to 1 FedEx pay: 50/hr

• year 1 to 2 UPS FO pay: 76/hr (and I don't think there are that many pilots at UPS who are in the FO seat after 1 year)
• year 1 to 2 FO FedEX widebody pay: 117/hr (and there are a LOT OF widebody FO's at FedEx with just 1 year of seniority)

• year 3-4 FO UPS pay: 92/hr
• year 3-4 FO Fedex widebody pay: 120/hr

Both UPS and FedEX are great companies. I don't think a pilot could get any luckier than to end up at either one. However, there are some serious differences in pay for junior-mid seniority crewmembers at the two companies.

I hope the UPS negotiating committee is addressing this in their current contract negotiations.

Not defending UPS' f/o pay, but the fact is that MOST recent newhires have been hires directly into the right seat of all fleet types, including the 747.

 

[Sluggo_63]

Ok, jackasses. Ever heard the saying, "Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded"? Maybe you all can meet up for a slap fight outside of the AOC and call it good?

Are you still on reserve? Don't forget to take out the trash, and stay offa' my bed.

Papa

 

[capt_zman]

Maybe their thinking about upgrading the fokkers and the atr's with rj's, which would be fine. anything less than 60k pounds is considered a feeder, anything over that number is flown by fedex guys.

what is the zfw and operational gross weight of an rj?