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Fastest ATP Rating in the West?

skyrider

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Am knock'n on the door of 1500TT, etc, etc, and am looking to put the ATP written & Practical behind me ASAP. Any recommendations on expidited programs in the WEST either from past experience or word on the street would be appreciated. Am based in SEA and am willing to fly witin the west to a worthwhile program.

Thanks in advance.
 

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GO TO ATP VEGAS OR PHOENIX

Airline Transport Professionals, proficient programs
and they run deals on ATP rating all the time...
Phoenix is a great place to go and Vegas would
work as well, can get through the written in
a day and both locations have very fair ( i don't
want to say the word easy) examiners.

I went to through their cfi program and saw a few
hundred people have success! call 1-800-allatps
and ask for a deal!

JP
 

gump88

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FYI

Its not a "rating", it is a LICENSE!!
 

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There's also Sheble's out of Kingman, Arizona. Exciting town, I know.......but at least you wont be distracted from studying.
$1595 I do believe.

www.shebleaviation.com
 

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Sheble's

I'll second Sheble's Aviation
 

gump88

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Re: bubba gump88

JOPILOT said:
Rating-License, who really cares -- pardon, stupid is stupid
does, JP

YOU should care!!!! Do you approach your flying with the same "who cares" attitude? When you say "ATP rating", YOU sound stupid!!!!!!!!!

gump
 

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Re: Re: bubba gump88

gump88 said:


YOU should care!!!! Do you approach your flying with the same "who cares" attitude? When you say "ATP rating", YOU sound stupid!!!!!!!!!

gump

No more STUPID than you sound when you call it a "LICENSE". Funny that you should come on here and call other people stupid.
 

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GUMP88

Dear Sr. Gump88,

FYI, I approach my flying with as much precision as my
experience, knowledge and ability allow. As far as the difference
between if you call a piece of paper a rating, a license, or what
would be proper - a certificate, does not really make a difference
in ones flying performance. Now it kind of sounds like someone
pissed in your cheerios this morning, and this web-site seems
to be a place for you to put out some attitude.
Sir, you look to have nearly 8 X as many hours in an aircraft
than I, but your personality seems to need a lift! I was just
trying to help someone out with info. on ATP's school and locations, I did not think I was signing in to have you be critical
of my terminology. Take a pill, maybe a Midol! JP

By the way "I got her number" makes YOU sound brilliant!
 

skyrider

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Stay Cool my Brothers! My mistake in calling it a rating from the onset. I see many "ATP" next to User CP "Ratings" and assumed it would be safe to follow the same form. That said, care to offer up a program recommedations for the West Coast?
Thanks again in advance.
 

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trainerjet said:


No more STUPID than you sound when you call it a "LICENSE". Funny that you should come on here and call other people stupid.

Definition of "license" per Webster's Dictionary: "a permission granted by competent authority to engage in a business or occupation or in an activity otherwise unlawful."

Definition of "certificate" per Webster's Dictionary: "a document certifying that one has fulfilled the requirements of and may practice in a field."

***The granting of permission to act as an ATP by the FAA is a LICENSE. The paper that you carry around in your pocket is a certificate.

:rolleyes:
 

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Re: GUMP88

By the way "I got her number" makes YOU sound brilliant! [/B][/QUOTE]

Maybe if you saw the movie, you would understand the quote.
 

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I SAW THE MOVIE!

I saw the movie you idiot, just look at the grammar.
 
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Re: Re: Re: Re: bubba gump88

gump88 said:


Definition of "license" per Webster's Dictionary: "a permission granted by competent authority to engage in a business or occupation or in an activity otherwise unlawful."

Definition of "certificate" per Webster's Dictionary: "a document certifying that one has fulfilled the requirements of and may practice in a field."

***The granting of permission to act as an ATP by the FAA is a LICENSE. The paper that you carry around in your pocket is a certificate.

:rolleyes:

Since I fly under the FARs and not Webster's, show me a reference in the FARs to a "License".

How about: "when exercising the priviliges of a certificate..." or "this prescribes the minimum curriculum for an airline transport pilot certificate"...,or the definition of "rating" in FAR 1 "a statement that, as part of a certificate, sets forth special conditions, privileges, or limitations."..... etc, etc.

You are WRONG, dude. But you can't admit it.

BTW, a license expires.....does your "Pilot's License" have an expiration date???????

I'm done with this discussion. But, I'm sure Gump will try again to prove that he is right, instead of admitting he is wrong. What an ..........:rolleyes:
 
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Sheble's

I got my ATP at Sheble's in 1989 when he was still in Blythe, California. You have to pass your ATP written beforehand, of course.

I reported late Sunday afternoon, took a sim and an oral with my instructor, came back early the next morning, took one fight in the Duchess, met with the examiner, took an "oral" (all five minutes' worth), a sim and a flight, another sim, and was out about noon on Monday. Maybe the routine has changed in thirteen years, but I doubt it.

The place was very informal. He had cats running around the hangars. Not a necktie in sight. It was definitely not your father's flight school.

It pays to be prepared. I practiced the BLH approaches in the sim for about ten hours. I had a friend who got his multi there (all three hours' worth) and he provided me the Duchess gouge.

Hope that helps some more.

In the old days of aviation, the Airline Transport "rating" was called an ATR, for Airline Transport Rating. It is a faux pas nowadays to call what is now the ATP certificate a rating. Some countries call the paper authorizations they issue pilots to fly aircraft licenses, e.g. Canada and the U.K., but not here in the U.S. They are certificates here.
 
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trainerjet said:


Since I fly under the FARs and not Webster's, show me a reference in the FARs to a "License".

How about: "when exercising the priviliges of a certificate..." or "this prescribes the minimum curriculum for an airline transport pilot certificate"...,or the definition of "rating" in FAR 1 "a statement that, as part of a certificate, sets forth special conditions, privileges, or limitations."..... etc, etc.

You are WRONG, dude. But you can't admit it.

BTW, a license expires.....does your "Pilot's License" have an expiration date???????

I'm done with this discussion. But, I'm sure Gump will try again to prove that he is right, instead of admitting he is wrong. What an ..........:rolleyes:

I admit I am wrong!! But I still say that it ain't a rating!

Peace
 

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You asked for the fastest rating in the West. I can't help you there but I can tell you about the fastest ATP checkout I've ever heard of; it's at Presque Isle, Maine my friend. Cost is $925 and it was the best $925 I've ever spent. Won't take you more than a morning or an afternoon assuming the weather is decent. It's definitely worth the airline ticket or drive to get your ATP there. Call 800-381-6875 and talk to John Trask. Super nice guy, relaxed atmosphere, and seeing Maine is cool to boot. Gotta have your written done prior.
 
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