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dispatchguy

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I was curious if anyone knew someone who had voluntarily surrendered their certificates under FAR 61.27, and under what conditions?

Just curious

TIA
 
Only in illness.

One thing that's bound to pop up is the all too common ridiculous notion that one should keep hold of one's certificate during a ramp inspection. There's this foolish idea circulating, and has been for some time, that if one permits an inspector to hold one's certificate, then one has surrendered it. Not so; a myth.

One can only surrender one's certificate formally, in writing.
 
I know of one personally.

Old guy busted class B and got an ultimatum from the feds:
Do remedial training and get a BFR sign-off or get your license suspended.
Flew with him twice, first time he turned off the radio because it was too distracting to listen to Approach, second time he could not find the airport WITH GPS. I'm not joking we were overflying the airport and the GPS started counting distance UP again.
He parked the airplane the wrong way around and tied a rope to the nose strut.
I'm dead serious here..
So I had a little chat with him and told him I could not sign him off without some serious training. Actually suggested he would only fly with a safety-pilot.
He got so upset he handed his license in the next day...sad, but better for everybody.
 
Tired Soul said:
I know of one personally.

Old guy busted class B and got an ultimatum from the feds:
Do remedial training and get a BFR sign-off or get your license suspended.
Flew with him twice, first time he turned off the radio because it was too distracting to listen to Approach, second time he could not find the airport WITH GPS. I'm not joking we were overflying the airport and the GPS started counting distance UP again.
He parked the airplane the wrong way around and tied a rope to the nose strut.
I'm dead serious here..
So I had a little chat with him and told him I could not sign him off without some serious training. Actually suggested he would only fly with a safety-pilot.
He got so upset he handed his license in the next day...sad, but better for everybody.
How long was this guy a cert holder? Either he never had quality instruction, or he developed some very bad habits on his own.
 
Just reminded me..

Probably a doctor! LOL

Years ago I saw a Doctor get in his Rockwell Commander twin start up the engines, taxi out on the Runway at COI (3600') hit the juice to only realize at Vr that the gust locks were still in elevator and Rudder, the river at the end stoped him only after a 700' skid marks off the end.....
 
Late 60ies early 70ies >2000 hrs in like 30 years of flying.

Only about 10 hrs in like the previous 2 years...
 
rvsm410 said:
Probably a doctor! LOL

Years ago I saw a Doctor get in his Rockwell Commander twin start up the engines, taxi out on the Runway at COI (3600') hit the juice to only realize at Vr that the gust locks were still in elevator and Rudder, the river at the end stoped him only after a 700' skid marks off the end.....
It happens more often than you think. I actually saw this one

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20001212X20988&key=1
 

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