Family members working for UPS

[AV80R]

My father is at UPS (Non-Pilot) and asked around, he is under the impression that the policy has or is being dropped.

Recently a mgmt captain retired early so his son could get an interview. From what I heard, the rule's still in effect.

If not I guess I can cease waiting on pins and needles for that phonecall any time soon.....

Actually, they might miss it and call you anyway. However, before they offer you an interview they go over your resume, flight times, etc. They also ask if you have any relatives working for UPS. At this point, you’ll probably be told that you’re not eligible to work for UPS at this time. Ask your dad to call the HR and find out, maybe there are some ways around it? Good luck!

 

[landlover]

does ups have system set up to recommend people for pilot slots? such as a sponser etc...? Does it help to know no one that works there?

 

[767pilot]

does ups have system set up to recommend people for pilot slots? such as a sponser etc...? Does it help to know no one that works there?

It's not as formal a pricess as they seem to have at FDX as far as sponsorship, but there is a place that pilots can go to fill out recomendation forms and answer questions about people that we would like to help out

 

[727C47]

I have a 3rd cousin that drives a truck for UPS (thru marriage), and I just put in my app. for a pilot position......is that going to disqualify me? In fact, he is only a cousin thru my stepGrandpa (I'm not kidding), so I guess he is a step 3rd cousin....... please tell me this won't disqualify me!?!?

 

[727C47]

I was also wondering how to get in touch with a pilot at UPS. We used to fly together at a previous company but lost touch when he left for UPS. Is there any way to leave a voicemail for him or a note in his file?

 

[BushwickBill]

Sheeee-yoooot... nearly all of Kentucky is related by birth or marriage!

BBB

Hey my cousin works for them and claims there is a cousin loophole. Because of the location of the main sorting facility they couldn't hire anyone if they didn't allow cousins.

 

[⌐ FLYER]

does ups have system set up to recommend people for pilot slots? such as a sponser etc...?

Not sure I understand the question? There is an online referral system, is that what you are asking about? I guess you could say if you're filling out an online referral - you're sponsoring the person...

Does it help to know no one that works there?

??? You mean does it help to know someone? Yes, online referrals are from people you know and/or have flown with. Referrals help of course, tough competition out there...Lately, people with heavy jet experience have been called for interview without knowing anyone inside (is that what you're asking about?)

 

[TheBaron]

I have a 3rd cousin that drives a truck for UPS (thru marriage), and I just put in my app. for a pilot position......is that going to disqualify me? In fact, he is only a cousin thru my stepGrandpa (I'm not kidding), so I guess he is a step 3rd cousin....... please tell me this won't disqualify me!?!?

Cousins are OK. No siblings and no parent/children relationships for full time employees. Thank gawd my brother works there so I can't. :laugh:

 

[Way2Broke]

I know someone whos dad is some sort of CP at Cessna and they will not hire him until his dad retires. UPS is not the only one with the anti-nepotism rule I guess. I think most people will agree that it is a stupid rule. Being a first generation pilot, I don't have this problem. Its funny, at some places having a relative employed there is almost required, at others it keeps you from even being considered.

 

[⌐ FLYER]

No-Nepotism! Good or Bad???

I too am a first generation pilot. My father is far removed from the UPS airline operation in his office at Corporate in ATL. No way he could ever be my boss or be in a position to effect my job. I'm still SOL until he retires under the current (old) policy.

“No-Nepotism rule” good or bad? What do you think?

I might be misunderstanding the whole nepotism (or is it no-nepotism?) rule but I don’t think it’s there to eliminate the risk of your Dad ever being your boss. Rather, it is in effect to avoid the risks of your Dad “pulling some strings” to get you hired just because he’s in a position of power.

FedEx guys please do not take this as a slam on your company because I sincerely think it’s a great company. However, wouldn’t you say that maybe the nepotism rule at UPS has helped to keep their work force a little more diverse? I don’t necessarily mean gender or even race diverse but rather “background-diverse.” I mean at UPS they’re hiring civilians from part 121, part 135 and part 91 backgrounds AND also pilots from all branches of the military. Most of my friends who went to FedEx tell me that civilian guys seem to be a tiny, tiny minority in most classes. Again, nothing wrong with that but maybe a “nepotism rule” at least diminishes the risk of creating a “good-ole-boy” network? You know: "...I'll help your son get on if you help mine..." etc...

I might be totally wrong and am hoping for a debate without pissing anyone off.

At one of the job fairs a few years back, Kit Darby’s assistant (can’t remember her name - tall lady with black hair) was talking to some military pilots and was trying to help them out with making "the right" decisions. I remember she told them during one of the breaks that at FedEx the ratio of military versus civilian pilots was more than 5 times higher than at UPS!? Don’t know where she got those numbers and don’t know if they are correct, but surely most people seem to agree that percentage-wise FedEx has way more military pilots in their ranks than UPS does? Once again, I personally do believe that they definitely “earned” their positions because as the civilian guys (I am one of them) worried about getting furloughed, the military guys worried about being shot down.

Like I said, I’m very supportive of military pilots, I am just saying that maybe the nepotism rule is the reason why UPS seems to be hiring many more civilian pilots, and thus keeping it more diverse when it comes to their flying backgrounds?

What do you think?