Falsifying his logbook, what do i do?!

[CrimsonEclipse]

Integrity is pretty important in this business.

Since when?

CE

 

[JAFI]

Did some one ask for a reference?

61.59 Falsification, reproduction, or alteration of applications, certificates, logbooks, reports, or records.
(a) No person may make or cause to be made:
(1) Any fraudulent or intentionally false statement on any application for a certificate, rating, authorization, or duplicate thereof, issued under this part;

(2) Any fraudulent or intentionally false entry in any logbook, record, or report that is required to be kept, made, or used to show compliance with any requirement for the issuance or exercise of the privileges of any certificate, rating, or authorization under this part;

(3) Any reproduction for fraudulent purpose of any certificate, rating, or authorization, under this part; or
(4) Any alteration of any certificate, rating, or authorization under this part.

(b) The commission of an act prohibited under paragraph (a) of this section is a basis for suspending or revoking any airman certificate, rating, or authorization held by that person.

 

[A Squared]

Did some one ask for a reference?

61.59 Falsification, reproduction, or alteration of applications, certificates, logbooks, reports, or records.
(a) No person may make or cause to be made:
(1) Any fraudulent or intentionally false statement on any application for a certificate, rating, authorization, or duplicate thereof, issued under this part;

(2) Any fraudulent or intentionally false entry in any logbook, record, or report that is required to be kept, made, or used to show compliance with any requirement for the issuance or exercise of the privileges of any certificate, rating, or authorization under this part;

(3) Any reproduction for fraudulent purpose of any certificate, rating, or authorization, under this part; or
(4) Any alteration of any certificate, rating, or authorization under this part.

(b) The commission of an act prohibited under paragraph (a) of this section is a basis for suspending or revoking any airman certificate, rating, or authorization held by that person.

Thanks for posting that JAFI. The trouble with that is that those who are seeking to rationalize putting false entries in thier logbook use a twisted rationale that goes something like this: This particular *entry* that I'm falsifying is not "required" because I can show all the currency and qualifications I need by using only the truthful entries, thus my falsified entries aren't "required to be kept" therefore it's not illegal to pad it. Now, we both know that the FAA doesn't buy this interpretation, but you'd be surprised how often I've heard this logic used to rationalize away the illegality of padding. I guess my question is: Why the he11 are you looking for a reason to claim that putting false entries in your logbook isn't illegal?

 

[414Flyer]

He is falsifying his logbook to get the regional airlines faster??? Thats a little bizarre in todays hiring environment.

Rushing to get a regional airline job seems to be about like speeding to get a root canal done.

 

[CrimsonEclipse]

He is falsifying his logbook to get the regional airlines faster??? Thats a little bizarre in todays hiring environment.

Rushing to get a regional airline job seems to be about like speeding to get a root canal done.

Ouch!!

(I laughed)

CE

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Just post his name on here....that should be punishment enough.

 

[SIG600]

I've seen this go both ways. Getting caught in an interview trying to explain flight time you didn't fly, and getting feds called in. I also knew guys that "logged what they needed" because they needed the job to put food on the table. I happen to know of two VERY (like top ten) senior pilots, at two major airlines, that got there because they pencil whipped some crucial time way back in their career, rather than suck tit for several more years scrapeing by. It may be wrong, but most people in high places didn't get there through moral fortitude and integrity 100% of the time.

 

[AC560]

It may be wrong, but most people in high places didn't get there through moral fortitude and integrity 100% of the time.

How could they have done this and possibly met the requirement of 61.153 (c). Next you are going to tell me there is no Santa Claus.

 

[siucavflight]

None of your business. He wont get caught and he will get a job sooner then you. Would I ever do it? No, but many do and no one gets caught.

Oh wait everyone knows someone who knows some guy who went in for a commercial checkride and had a bunch of time in the examiners plane logged. This is a true story I sware.

 

[Bluestreak]

While he may not have falsified his log book,what if one of these people who knew this clown would have talked to the feds about him ? Four innocent people would still be alive:


NTSB Identification: ATL07FA077
14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
Accident occurred Sunday, April 22, 2007 in Hamilton, GA
Aircraft: Beech 58, registration: N5647C
Injuries: 5 Fatal.

This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed.

On April 22, 2007, about 1451 eastern daylight time, a Beech BE-58, N5647C, registered to Renaissance Aircraft Management LLC, operating as a 14 CFR Part 91 personal flight, broke up in flight in the vicinity of Hamilton, Georgia. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed and no flight plan was filed. The airplane was destroyed. The private pilot and 4 passengers were fatally injured. The flight originated from Jack Edwards Airport, Gulf Shores, Alabama, at about 1300 central daylight time.

A witness stated he was in his boat fishing in a lake in the vicinity of his home. He heard an airplane approaching his location from the southeast to the northwest. It sounded as if the pilot was performing some acrobatic maneuvers. The witness looked up and could not see the airplane. The engine noise continued to increase in intensity and the witness observed the airplane to the north of the lake heading northwest. The airplane was high and descending very fast in a 45 to 60 degree nose down attitude. The witness stated he observed a wing or part of the tail separate from the airplane in the vicinity of Hamilton Mulberry Grove Road. He immediately went to his boat dock and to his home and called the 911 emergency operators to report the accident.

A motorist approached a Georgia State Patrol Officer at the accident scene and informed the Officer that he was a friend of the deceased pilot. He further informed the officer that he was planning on purchasing an airplane from the pilot, and the pilot was going to use the money from the sale of the airplane to purchase the Beech 58 that he was flying at the time of the accident. The motorist further stated that the accident pilot "flying skills were below his standards because the pilot was known for overstressing the planes he flew." The motorist further stated from having flown with him and he made a statement to a friend about three weeks ago that the accident pilot would probably crash an airplane within the next year.

A friend of the pilot stated the pilot was in his shop on Friday, April 20, 2007, before he departed to Gulf Shores, Alabama on a fishing trip in his Beech 58. The friend informed the pilot, "That he thought he was stupid and not to do anything in the airplane that would get him hurt." The pilot stated, "I think I can roll this airplane." The friend stated, "The pilot had been at Sun N' Fun in Lakeland, Florida, during the week and had observed a performer rolling a Beech 18, and the deceased pilot just kept the rolling issue in his head." The friend stated the pilot had flown with a retired airline pilot, who owns a Beech 55, and the pilot had rolled the airplane with the deceased pilot as a passenger.

Another friend of the deceased pilot stated, he was in the right front seat of the airplane on April 19, 2007, on a return flight from Sun N' Fun in Lakeland, Florida, with two other passengers in the back seats. They departed Lakeland, Florida, and the pilot climbed to an initial cruising altitude of 9, 500 feet. The autopilot was on and the airplane was cruising at 220 knots. The pilot climbed to 10,500 feet to see if they could get a better ground speed and eventually descended back down to 9,500 feet. A short time later, the pilot stated, "I want to try something." The pilot rolled the airplane to the left side, and then back to the right side with the autopilot off and stated, "I believe its possible to roll this airplane."

The pilot pushed down on the control yoke, initiated a descent, and turned the airplane to the left, pulled back on the control yoke, and the airplane went up and over to the right like a spiral until the airplane was in a knife-edge attitude. The friend of the pilot stated he did not know what airspeed they obtained while the pilot was performing this maneuver and stated, " It got me out of my comfort zone, and I could not handle it." The friend stated he grabbed the flight controls, leveled the airplane, and stated to the pilot, "I can not do this." The pilot replied, "I believe it is possible to roll this airplane." The pilot descended down to 7,500 feet and leveled off in cruise flight, and there was no further discussion about rolling the airplane. A short time later, the pilot pulled the power back on the right engine, feathered the propeller, and they continued towards Griffin, Georgia, in cruise flight. The pilot started the engine, and they made their decent and landing at Griffin.


The others knew he was dangerous and said nothing.Now 4 people died as a result.