Falcon 50EX jobs

[banned username 2]

I have to agree with the $90k-$100k figure for a PIC... As much as I'd like to believe $120-$140k for PIC, I just haven't meet anyone flying a 50 making close to that as a new hire...

 

[LegacyDriver]

Seems like nobody makes what people say they should make in any airplane. The only guys I ever met who were even close worked for Paramount. They made what I thought a Corporate pilot "should" make. But outside of that, everyone has made about 50-70% of what they "should".

Brutal business for sure. Thank goodness we're not the Regionals I guess.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Maybe I explained it wrong...

I certainly was not thinking he would be 120-140K as a newhire, most likely 85-100K.

Im also guessing he wont be a fully cut loose International PIC as a newhire either.

The problem is he simply has not supplied enough information...

Does he have 1500hrs and this will be his first or second type rating? (read CO-captain for a while) or is he already a large a/c corp Intl Captain who simply needs to transition to the 50EX and a new company?

the difference in the 2 situations could be the difference between 85K and 130+K.

either way, good to hear there are jobs out there!
Good Luck.

 

[HMR]

Seems like nobody makes what people say they should make in any airplane. The only guys I ever met who were even close worked for Paramount. They made what I thought a Corporate pilot "should" make. But outside of that, everyone has made about 50-70% of what they "should".

Brutal business for sure. Thank goodness we're not the Regionals I guess.

Hmmm... In our neighborhood, every corp. dept. that I can think of is paying well above NBAA averages for the equipment being flown. Lots of happy pilots.

 

[LegacyDriver]

Hmmm... In our neighborhood, every corp. dept. that I can think of is paying well above NBAA averages for the equipment being flown. Lots of happy pilots.

I am glad to hear that! Seriously. I have yet to meet anyone on my equipment who makes what the salary guides say they should, and like my friends on the Falcon, most seem to be woefully underpaid. Is it location-dependent? West Coast pays more than the South, etc... ?

 

[English]

Hmmm... In our neighborhood, every corp. dept. that I can think of is paying well above NBAA averages for the equipment being flown. Lots of happy pilots.

I need to move to your neighborhood. All I'm surrounded by is families with kids.

 

[psysicx]

I didn't think there were lots of corp gigs in your neighborhood?

 

[Brett Hull]

None with good pay or QOL.

 

[psysicx]

Thats a shame.

 

[Loco Gringo]

How about DA50EX cocaptain aka typed copilot mid South Fortune 100 part 91

 

[LegacyDriver]

$67,000 is the going rate for that in Texas if you are talking about a certain telecom firm.

 

[Loco Gringo]

$67,000 is the going rate for that in Texas if you are talking about a certain telecom firm.

Is above figure fair market? I know of at least two smaller companies in same city that start much higher on smaller equipment. I have been out of the corporate loop a long time and really have no idea.

 

[HMR]

$67,000... for a Falcon 50?

Newest NBAA numbers (these are averages for the entire country as I didn't have time to work the numbers for Texas. They include responses from PT91 and 135.) The DA50 falls somewhere between "midsize" and "heavy jet" (there's no "super-midsize" for NBAA) so that's how I figured it:

Captain, Base Salary: $90,500

AvCrew results specifically for DA50:

Captain, Average Pay: $87,000

There's NO WAY a Fortune100 company should be paying LESS than national average. And Gringo, with your experience you shouldn't be working for average pay.

 

[LegacyDriver]

Newest NBAA numbers (these are averages for the entire country as I didn't have time to work the numbers for Texas. They include responses from PT91 and 135.) The DA50 falls somewhere between "midsize" and "heavy jet" (there's no "super-midsize" for NBAA) so that's how I figured it:

Captain, Base Salary: $90,500

AvCrew results specifically for DA50:

Captain, Average Pay: $87,000

There's NO WAY a Fortune100 company should be paying LESS than national average. And Gringo, with your experience you shouldn't be working for average pay.

Don't shoot me HMR I'm just the messenger! I am always interested in any job in Texas, especially San Antonio. I was probably in competition with this guy for the exact same job. $67K for me would be a raise over what I make now. Kinda' sad I guess...but KSAT is my life.

If you know of any other KSAT-KAUS-KMFE jobs I would sure be interested.

$67K is low per the survey so I guess I'm a whore for what I make flying this Brazilian thing... After all, I worked for a Regional for $17K a year to start. Boy was I an idiot.

Take care guys. Thanks all for the kindness and tolerance shown.

Cheers.

 

[HMR]

$67K for me would be a raise over what I make now.

Are you freaking serious?

 

[LegacyDriver]

Yeah. Pathetic isn't it for a Super-Midsize Captain.

"Well it is just an ERJ and they fly those for 40K a year. Be grateful you make more than that."

What can you do? Every Legacy Driver I know is in the same boat.

 

[LegacyDriver]

Also before anyone thinks I am bashing my employer--i am not. They treat me incredibly well. Great schedule and the boss is not into disciplining people over trivial mistakes like my CP at the airline. I get two weeks off then work 7 to 9 then off two weeks. It is great QOL. But the pay could be better and that is the primary complaint. Good people. Good job. Good plane. But nothing is perfect.

 

[Loco Gringo]

Legacy Driver check your PM

 

[HMR]

What can you do? Every Legacy Driver I know is in the same boat.

I can't understand flying a large corp. jet for less money than my buddies flying CJ's are making. Maybe regional guys just don't know any better?

I'm glad to hear you're happy with the QOL. That's worth alot.

Good Luck.

 

[O-Line]

$67K for me would be a raise over what I make now. Kinda' sad I guess...but KSAT is my life.

That's pathetic! I was making $60K as a King Air Driver in Austin (Mueller then) 10 years ago!