Falcon 50 PIC pay?

[TxPilot0878]

Falcon 50 PIC pay and PILOT INITIATED CONTRACTS?

Does anyone have a link, NBAA, or knowledged on the "RANGE" for the salary of a Falcon 50 Line Captain Part 135 (Texas/South)?

Regards,

Tex

p.s. Inteview on Tuesday...thanks Ya'll!

p.s.s. What are your thoughts on signing contracts INITIATED by the pilot. Any links or generic copies to a basic contract? Hard world out there trying to make sure the company backs up their "PROMISES."

 

[Gulfstream 200]

So...you want to ask the employer to sign a "contract" to guarantee you certain things?



I might not ask that in the interview..:laugh:...but if you feel you need to its probably a pretty big flag that its a dirtbag operation.

 

[TxPilot0878]

Thanks. The certain things being what happens in the event of......"plane being sold," "aquisition," "things slow down," etc.

I have know several guys out there that have contracts that set forth pay and guidlines "in the event of".....all void of course if your fired...which may be why its better not to have one in the first place!!!

 

[NCherches]

...I wouldn't hire you if you asked me to sign an employment contract-to me it sets off a red flag on hiring someone..

Not to be a jerk, but if your going to be in the corporate world you need to accept that if the plane is sold, etc that you could end up on the street. Sucks I know, but most of us are dealing with it.

Like I mentioned in your other post you need to ask why they are hiring. Most 'good' companies are not hiring right now.

As far as pay I would say 85-95K is realistic but it depends on type of flying, benifits, etc.

 

[fisherpilot]

I think 90 would be a realistic salary on a 50 in 135. Maybe instead of a contract see if you can get a signed letter with some sort of severance package (I guess that's the same thing as a contract). With my company we offer 2 months of pay for less than 1 yr of employment up to a yr depending on how long you've been here. Of course this is if you are laid off, not fired.

Good luck. If you have any doubts I'd stay where you are.

 

[masedogg19]

Not to be a jerk, but if your going to be in the corporate world you need to accept that if the plane is sold, etc that you could end up on the street.

Then the employer needs to accept the fact that you might move on if offered a new position and they'll just have to deal with it.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Then the employer needs to accept the fact that you might move on if offered a new position and they'll just have to deal with it.

ya, most places are pretty OK with that....especially 135 places currently advertising for pilots.

 

[masedogg19]

not really....that's why they start to institute training contracts....they get "burned" a few times and all of the sudden you owe them if you decide to move on

 

[NCherches]

The bottom line is that at a truely good outfit you don't need a contract on either side....

 

[fisherpilot]

The bottom line is that at a truely good outfit you don't need a contract on either side....

That's true! But, sometimes we have to do things we don't really want to. Most contracts are a yr and that flies by. I think contracts are BS, but I've signed one before to get out of the airlines. It was with a typical 135 operator

 

[TxPilot0878]

I agree with all!

NCHerches you are right none should be needed on either side! Unfortunately that is not the world we live in.

"SEVERANCE PACKAGE" is a better word for what I am asking not CONTRACT! Thanks fisherpilot!

 

[AA717driver]

Maybe broach the subject in the context of: "I've experienced this in the past and wondered if you have a policy that deals with A/C sales, department clousure, etc."

Keep it conversational unless they do have a plan.

Just my $.02.

TC

 

[Jack Campbell]

I have a good friend who is in the corporate world, a non-pilot. He has had a contract for every job he's had. It lays out things like the compensation package and vacations and what happens if he is downsized out of his job.

Why is this such a controversial subject? Think about it. Whenever one of these weathy people we fly gets into a business relationship, don't you think THEY get a contract? Well, of course they do! Look, the only reason we, as pilots, don't demand a contract is because we have not created an atmosphere in which it is not expected. Its OUR FAULT. We get into this business because we love what we do, and in return we allow ourselves to enter into business relationships (i.e. JOBS) on a handshake.

Having an agreement on paper about how things are going to work with an employer is not only a good idea, it is foolish to do otherwise. I have this conversation after the job offer and it has been well-recieved the few times I have changed jobs.

 

[TxPilot0878]

Things and pay are fine! When someone calls you...then you have a "SOMEWHAT" stable platform to negotiate.
We negotiated back and forth and all is within reason...and even though the job was threatened...I did not go below my OFFERED bottom line.
Was still hired and don't have to use the CONTRACT!

BEST OF LUCK!!!

 

[Mach88]

Congrats TXpilot! And thanks for doing your part in letting employers know that our experience and skills justify a decent wage and severance if neccesary. You can be professional and gracious but still hold firm on a decent wage. I did that myself and I think the pilots that are involved in the hiring respect and appreciate that attitude.

 

[LegacyDriver]

I'd be shocked if you got over $65-70K in Texas for that gig, being 135 Charter. If you did better I say bravo to you!

 

[LegacyDriver]

Oh and congrats on the job. Glad to see people getting hired out there.