Falcon 10 - Single Pilot??

[ebaybob]

Can a Falcon 10 be flown single pilot? I watched a pilot (probably pilot / owner) jump in one the other day and blast off by himself...so I'm assuming you can...but it made me wonder...

 

[CapnVegetto]

I don't think so......

Only 2 I know of SP are Citations, and RA-290S.

But I could be wrong...somebody help me out here.

 

[banned username 2]

Can a Falcon 10 be flown single pilot? I watched a pilot (probably pilot / owner) jump in one the other day and blast off by himself...so I'm assuming you can...but it made me wonder...

Nope, Falcon 10 is Type Certified for 2 crew members... Illegal to fly it single pilot...

 

[aeolian]

Can a Falcon 10 be flown single pilot? I watched a pilot (probably pilot / owner) jump in one the other day and blast off by himself...so I'm assuming you can...but it made me wonder...

He may have had an inflatible autopilot and did not deploy it until just before takeoff . They are not much use during those challenge / response checklists anyway. But I think those things are legal now.

 

[Flying Illini]

In groundschool they mentioned that in France it can be flown SP (but very restrictive)...but that they had heard that a loooooonnnng time ago, it may have changed now. In the US however, it is a 2 crew aircraft, illegal to fly SP.
Are you sure it was a Falcon 10? If so, you witnessed a big no-no.

 

[ebaybob]

It was for sure a Falcon 10. I had to divert to a different airport last Thursday morning flying freight and on the ramp I saw the Falcon. As I was waiting for the van to come pick up the freight a guy walked out of the fbo, opened the door to the plane, went back to the fbo for something, back to the plane, jumped in and left. This is a really small airport so there were only a few other people like line guys around. I asked the other pilot who was with me if the Falcon can be flown single pilot and we agreed that we thought it couldn't...I have exactly zero jet time so I only know what I have read or heard. As he was taxiing I looked again to make sure he was alone and sure enough, he was. I watched him taxi out and blast off...and was still wondering if it was legal. I suppose someone could have been sleeping in the back and didn't wander up to the front of the plane until they were most of the way down the taxiway...anything is possible. Interesting anyway...thanks for the replies!!

 

[sydeseet]

Is it possible that the other pilot was loading bags in the back or something similar? To fly a two pilot jet single pilot is asking to be busted - eventually someone is going to make a phone call.

 

[TransMach]

Falcon 10s

Mate,

Could that -10 be, by chance, DA10 S/N 062, N6VG ??

TransMach

 

[ebaybob]

I didn't write down the N-number...didn't think to do so until after the plane was gone...the -10 was completely white and I didn't see anyone else get on the plane...no passengers...just the single pilot who "looked" like he may have owned the thing...just a guess...

 

[G100driver]

Correct on the French SP ops. It was originally intended to be an SP airplane.

Who would have thought that the French wanted to be bold and the FAA had to put the brakes on the entire thing.

 

[Capthuff]

Was it in SBY?

I believe there is an owner operator there. I talked to him once. He seemed to be on the ball but you never really know with owner/pilots

 

[Brett Hull]

Has everyone heard the Connie Kalitta story? If not, you're about to...

He pulled up somewhere single pilot in a Learjet. Someone reported him to the FAA. When he returned to the airport he was met by his friendly inspector who asked him where his F/O was. He said he didn't bring one. The inspector said "I'm going to have to write you a violation". Connie said "You better write two of the mother lovers (obviously edited) 'cause I ain't taking the bus home!", got in, fired up and left.

 

[some_dude]

As I understand it, if the airplane is French registered, and the pilot has a French license, then it can be flown single *pilot*. However, there is a requirement for a second crewmember, who has certain tasks assigned to them. The second crewmember does not have to be a pilot, though.

For trivia sake, this is also true of the 50.

 

[ultrarunner]

My Falcon 10 AFM limitations section indicates it's certified for a single pilot operations, with an 'observer' if I recall. The next page is the AFM revision the FAA put in there requiring two qualified pilots.

 

[bocefus]

Boys, the Falcon 10 is type certificated in the US with 2, yes, 2 pilots as the minimum crew required. Regardless of country of registry, two pilots are ALWAYS required. If operating in France, or any other JAA governed country, two TYPE RATED pilots are required.

 

[CUEBOAT]

Has everyone heard the Connie Kalitta story? If not, you're about to...

He pulled up somewhere single pilot in a Learjet. Someone reported him to the FAA. When he returned to the airport he was met by his friendly inspector who asked him where his F/O was. He said he didn't bring one. The inspector said "I'm going to have to write you a violation". Connie said "You better write two of the mother lovers (obviously edited) 'cause I ain't taking the bus home!", got in, fired up and left.

hahaha Connie Kalitta sounds like one tough mofo

 

[Rick1128]

Single pilot

It depends. I know of a Lear 24 and a 25 that are flown single pilot legally under US registry. They operate in restricted catagory and the pilots have LOAs for that operation. I don't know of a Falcon 10 doing that though.

 

[joelo88]

just to add to the thread... I've heard that in Europe, the Falcon 20 was actually a single pilot plane but there had to be a "radio operator" in the right seat. Maybe this is the case with the 10 as well. As far as I know though, none of that matters in the US.

 

[UGAflyer]

It depends. I know of a Lear 24 and a 25 that are flown single pilot legally under US registry. They operate in restricted catagory and the pilots have LOAs for that operation. I don't know of a Falcon 10 doing that though.

This might apply. In some TV show I saw about private jets it made it look like Clay Lacy was flying a Lear(20 series) single pilot to his fly-in community...does anyone know if he really does or it was just the TV show??

 

[Rick1128]

No he flys it two pilot. The two lears in question are operated as inflight simulators by Calvin Arspan Corp. And they are operated in the limited category.

This might apply. In some TV show I saw about private jets it made it look like Clay Lacy was flying a Lear(20 series) single pilot to his fly-in community...does anyone know if he really does or it was just the TV show??