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And his 15 minutes of fame courtesy of CNN just reinforces his belligerence by presenting him as being in the right with the airlines and FAA as morons. Nice going CNN, Alec Baldwin for president.
 
But it came in handy to see the birds getting sucked into the big D's engines, maybe time to change this rule anyways.
 
Rule are rules...if he doesnt like it, he can take the bus and use his ipad to film the vagrants on the side of the road. Whats next, he doesnt like smoking being banned from flights so he feels its ok to light one up anyways? They should have fined him and made an example out of him.
 
This is just another example of how much our industry has fallen. 20 years ago the passengers listened and followed instructions given to them by the flight crew. Now we are just "a Pain in the ARSHH" to them. Sad. PS I am sure this guy is a real piece of work in his daily life too.
 
15 minutes of fame - anyone esle catch him say "he's just out on the road trying to promote a book". What a d-bag.

That's great - we fart the wrong way in a cockpit and the Feds can swoop in and take/suspend our tickets or ruin our careers but this guy openly ignores regulations and they send him a letter.
 
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Comply or Don't Fly. The law isn't negotiable.

(I've had to use that line a few times in recent months.)
 
That's great - we fart the wrong way in a cockpit and the Feds can swoop in and take/suspend our tickets...

Lear, I'm pretty sure we have flown together at our previous airline... And I'm thinking that if you had farted the wrong way in the cockpit, perhaps the FAA may have been justified in certificate action against you... :)
 
Lear, I'm pretty sure we have flown together at our previous airline... And I'm thinking that if you had farted the wrong way in the cockpit, perhaps the FAA may have been justified in certificate action against you... :)

Hey sometimes that bourbon chicken (or stray dog, cat, rodent they found under B+C terminal) just doesn't sit right.
 
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I love how he says if the FAA thinks iPad/Phones/etc are so dangerous then they should ban them. Umm....they DID ban them Mr. D-bag book promoter.
 
I love how he says if the FAA thinks iPad/Phones/etc are so dangerous then they should ban them. Umm....they DID ban them Mr. D-bag book promoter.

I think he meant ban them completely (above 10,000 ft).
Above 10,000 they turn them on and nothing happens.
I don't agree with him, just saying what I think he meant.
It is not a democracy....you can turn them on if we tell you can.
 
I think these rules have to be revisited as well-
 
Well, the rules are just so confusing. I mean you can't use them when they tell you you can't and then you can use them when they you you can. I have no idea when I can and can't use my toys, so I just need put it all in a lock box at the door. I'm just confused.
 
Put the guy on the no-fly list. That will get peoples attention. Sure, your iPad is not going to take down the jet, but you did not follow crew member instructions and FAA regulations.
 
Really? No fly?
C'mon,

Maybe something like a 6 month visit to the no-fly list might get peoples attention. Break the law, head to the penalty box.

Now I know as do you that using an iPad/iphone/digital camera is not going to cause a problem, but dammit those are the rules. If the traveling public absolutely cannot live without using these devices for takeoff and landing, then they need to petition the FAA to change the rules.
 
Well, I hear you- but I might join them-
It undermines crews' authority when our biggest hassle and enforcement issue isn't fully understood or even followed by most crew
 
I think he meant ban them completely (above 10,000 ft)

I'm sure that's exactly what he meant. IMO, he needs to grow up a bit and learn to follow the rules. I think the rule is pretty dumb myself but they didn't ask me. My 6 yr old is allowed to play video games sometimes and not allowed at other times. I don't have to ban them from my house to have my son follow the rules. And he's 6....
 
Ipads and Kindles are all approved for use on the airplanes from start to finish. Pilots use them for manuals and Jepps. The rule is because of safety. People boarding on their Ipods and phones are oblivious to what is going on around themselves. Imagine what would happen if there was a planeload of people on Ipads and Phones and an emergency happened on taxi out or takeoff? Most PAX are clueless anyway.
 
Ipads and Kindles are all approved for use on the airplanes from start to finish. Pilots use them for manuals and Jepps. The rule is because of safety. People boarding on their Ipods and phones are oblivious to what is going on around themselves. Imagine what would happen if there was a planeload of people on Ipads and Phones and an emergency happened on taxi out or takeoff? Most PAX are clueless anyway.

^^ this :)
 
You sure about that? Maybe 2 Ipads on the flight deck as EFBs, but I don't think that's meant to mean blanket approval for who knows how many in the cabin. Post a link if you have it.
 
Ipads and Kindles are all approved for use on the airplanes from start to finish. Pilots use them for manuals and Jepps. The rule is because of safety. People boarding on their Ipods and phones are oblivious to what is going on around themselves. Imagine what would happen if there was a planeload of people on Ipads and Phones and an emergency happened on taxi out or takeoff? Most PAX are clueless anyway.


Or landing....I wonder how many people on the Air France A-340 in Toronto were on the phone or ipad...over 200 off the wreck in less than 90 seconds.....
 
Change the rule. The rule is dumb. I know it, you know it, we know it. An ever more tech-savvy society also knows it. When they get a wiff of "stupid" (the electronics announcement) that taints every other anouncement that actually has validity...

Oh and the FAA letter is pure comedy when issued to a "civilian". As an Airman, try to get something of real importance in writing from the FAA and it takes 6 months ("lack of manpower"), but they are johnny-on-the-spot when it comes to non-sense...
 

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